Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
12/28/08 05:47 PM
Wood Lathe List

Submitted for your reading pleasure...

Wood Lathe Listing

Comments (especially corrections) welcome. Any suggestions requiring me to go back through the entire list may or may not get acted on in a timely manner.


Scoots
(Member)
12/28/08 05:56 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Great list. You been bored?

I think Powermatic made a 3520A, not sure though. Other than that, you had the lathes I had looked at in the past couple of years.


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
12/28/08 06:04 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Yeah, I've been working on this list for a long time off and on. I've never seen anything close to a complete listing so I thought it might be useful for some.

I wondered about the 3520A. Is it still available new? I tried to limit the list to only those that are still actively on the market for sale new. Going back into older models would have taken forever!


Scoots
(Member)
12/28/08 06:09 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Dunno if it's still available - it's not listed on their website, so maybe not. But I noticed you had one other discontinued lathe on the list already.

Gordon Seto
(Member)
12/28/08 07:25 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Neal,

Nice work.

I suggest length of warranty should be part of the consideration. Some are 1 year, but some are even longer than 5. With that information, we can guesstimate the quality, how confident the manufacturer has on their products.
Otherwise, just reading the specifications, the clones who dare to lie with added bells and whistles win every time.

I also suggest distinguishing the mechanical (Reeves Drive) and electronic variable speed.

BTW, great site. I really enjoy the landscape photography.


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
12/28/08 07:59 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Thanks. Didn't think of warranty but it probably should have been included. Maybe someday I'll take the time to go back through the list.

I did give some thought to distinguishing the drive types but unfortunately it was too difficult to glean from the info on the various manufacturer's websites. Even some of my "Non-VS" vs "VS" vs "EVS" designations were sketchy based on the info available.

For those who don't take the time to read the lead-in page let me repeat a snippet:
Quote:

It should be strongly emphasized that specifications alone are NOT a good indicator of the quality of a given lathe. I have made no attempt to rate or judge the design, build quality, ergonomics, etc of any of the lathes listed.... Potential lathe buyers are strongly encouraged to do their own research beyond the scope of this list. On-line woodturning forums are an excellent resource for information and feedback regarding a given make/model of lathe.



EDIT: In hindsight, maybe it would have also been a good idea to indicate whether they were constructed out of cast iron, stamped tin, or aluminum foil.



rightuppercut
(Member)
12/28/08 08:12 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

You know its guys like you that make the rest of us look bad. That goes for websites as well.

Angus
(Clamp Head)
12/28/08 08:46 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

General and General International?

Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
12/28/08 08:59 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Oh durn! How'd I forget them?

EDIT: Dun.


Angus
(Clamp Head)
12/28/08 09:13 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

VB bowl masters and the Rikon woodfast series?


Should I stop now?


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
12/28/08 11:31 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Keep on bringing it.

Don't seem to see a "series" on the Rikon site. They only list the 70-500. Maybe the others are discontinued?


Angus
(Clamp Head)
12/28/08 11:41 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Don't think so.

Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
12/28/08 11:46 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Yep. That's the one I've got. Still wonder what they mean by "series"?

EightFingers
(Moderator)
12/29/08 08:16 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Your next project is could be to list all the accessories and pricing for each lathe. Have fun!

Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
12/29/08 11:16 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

LOL! I'll leave that to you guys.

BTW, for you web-savvy gurus...

This is being presented in a simple HTML table format. It's OK but not ideal. If anyone is aware of an embedded spreadsheet format that works with all browsers I'd be glad to hear of it. I tried one or two but had problems with consistency in both Firefox and IE. I don't want to exclude users of Firefox, Mac Safari, etc.


Jason/Woody
(Giddy school girl, tied for a win.)
12/29/08 11:47 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

what is IE? My computer only knows of mozilla

Tim'sTurnings
(Member)
12/29/08 12:45 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

That would be I nternet E xplorer Woody.

Jason/Woody
(Giddy school girl, tied for a win.)
12/29/08 01:13 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

OOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh

(rolls eyes sarcastically)


creature
(Member)
12/29/08 01:24 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

I noticed you only included a stubby 750, but I'm pretty sure they have three models.

Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
12/29/08 01:43 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

I also thought they had more than one model and was surprised to only see the S750 on their website.

According to their "Place an Order" page the S1000 has been discontinued in favor of the S750. On that same page they do mention an S600 but it's not mentioned anywhere else on their site.

Quote:

The F600 is our fixed bed, shortbed 24" lathe. It shares most parts with the S750 but has a more traditional bed cast into the machine base. If you are interested in this machine please contact us. The price with electronics and stand identical to the S750 is $3795.00 + shipping.



It sounds like it's still available by request so perhaps it should be included. Maybe I'll email them for specs rather than assume it's "exactly" identical to the S750.

Do ya think if I tell them I'm also doing reviews they'd send me one gratis?

I didn't think so.


creature
(Member)
12/29/08 02:19 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

You know Neal, you never know. Write a nice letter

wooddork123
(Member)
12/30/08 12:56 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Neil that is a great resource. Thanks!
Maybe it would be easiest (on Neil) to make the research a group effort. We could find the data and email our findings to Neil and then all he would need to do is update when he finds the time.


AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
01/03/09 11:04 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

I'm going to sticky this for a bit.

FireWood
(Member)
01/13/09 12:16 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Stubby S1000.

Big brother to the S750

20" swing over the ways, 40" over the gap. Welded steel base.

This is also the long bed, i.e nonStubby. ~40" between centers when the bed is extended.



-Dan


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
01/13/09 01:09 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

On the S1000 see my reply a few posts up.

jerickson
(Member)
01/13/09 01:54 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

That is one sexy picture. Her beautiful blonde curls have me drooling.

FireWood
(Member)
01/13/09 03:35 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Oh, missed that.... sorry.

I know that Bill R of Stubby-USA only stocks the S750, but I believe he will bring in the other machines upon request. I'm pretty sure he sold another S1000 recently.


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
01/13/09 03:41 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

I bet you're right. They may still sell them on request.

I think I will email them tonight and ask a few questions. I need a few specs on the 600 anyway.

EDIT: Sigh! The last thing in the world I need to be doing is talking turkey with Stubby. Must resist temptation... must resist...


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
01/13/09 10:30 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Bill at Stubby confirmed that the S1000 has been discontinued in favor of the S750. Production costs made the S1000 prohibitive. But that IS one beautiful lady!

The F600 is still available by request. He did say that the swing on it is 24". I'll correct that on my specs. He's going to measure the bed and get back to me tomorrow.


MichaelS
(member)
01/19/09 01:21 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Neal,

I just did a quick search and didn't notice Poolewood in there. After watching Bill's first DVD I was wondering what they cost. I realize they are a euro lathe, but figured they were still available?

Just curious, looks like one heck of a machine in his video.

michael


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
01/19/09 01:30 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

I looked at Poolewood lathes but didn't see where they were available here in N.A. Didn't do much research on that though.

It might be worth looking at the UK and Oz lathe market. Lots of good stuff there. After all, I did include Vicmarc, but mainly because they do distribute (some models) domestically.


Mr.Wilson
(Member)
01/19/09 02:33 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Not speaking for Bill Grumbine but he posted this several years back (Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:03 pm) on the diyprojects forum:

Bill's post



"Poolewood lathes aren't really available anywhere right now, at least that I
am aware of. Of course, this only serves to drive up the value of my own
Euro 2000. ;-) I read some of the postings on the AWGB forum, as far back
as I could go anyway, and there is nothing there that I did not already
know. Poolewood split with Silverdrive, the company building the machines
for them. But even before that, getting them into the US seemed to be a bit
of a problem. There were only a couple of distributors in the US, and none
of them seemed to be real interested in advertising or promoting the
machine. The one with whom I am most familiar, David Ellsworth, sold one
model only and you had to pick it up to get it. But Poolewood offered a
whole range of lathes, from a small benchtop all the way up to the monstrous
Euro 3000, which had something like a 30" swing and a 3 HP 3 phase direct
drive motor. I had briefly considered talking with them about being a
distributor, but I am only about 30 miles from David, and I did not think it
would fly, or be proper.

My Euro 2000 is built like the proverbial tank. I have turned extensively
on just about every lathe on the market, including the Oneway 2436, the big
Stubbys, and other machines of this caliber. I have never been sorry that I
bought my Poolewood, or wished for something more powerful. It holds its
own easily in this crowd, and the problems I have had with it have been
minor. The run/stop and reverse switches have a tendency to get dust in
them and need to be blown out with compressed air from time to time, and the
speed potentiometer needed replacing ($12.58 for an industrially rated one),
and I bought metal locking knobs to replace the plastic ones. It has seen
very heavy turning and even some abuse both from me and a host of students
over the past six years, and it is going like the day I bought it.

Of course, this is all academic, since the only way to get one is to find
one used, and I do not know of anyone who owns one who would be willing to
part with it. The Silverdrive company seemed to offer the promise of
carrying on in the tradition of a great lathe, but judging by the talk on
the Brit forum, I would not want one, only because of the lack of service.
I will say that whenever I needed something from Poolewood, Terry Davis
either emailed me or called me on the phone to get it all taken care of.
Now that is service!

The new Poolewood seems to be a shadow of its former self, if only from a
style point of view. My machine looks like something out of Buck Rogers,
while the new one looks like a refugee from a spare parts bin. Reports on
its performance vary widely, and I have no experience with it."

--


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
01/19/09 03:14 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Interesting. Thanks for posting that. They are impressive-looking lathes.

Just need one more lathe to reach 100 listings. Think I should include the Proxxon?


FireWood
(Member)
01/20/09 03:29 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Proxxon... no!

Don't give up on Poolewood just yet... I have a vague memory that the company went under, but the lathes live on... sold under a different name.

Might come to me yet.

-Dan


FireWood
(Member)
01/20/09 03:41 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

It was Silverdrive. Maybe Euro only though....

http://www.silverdrive.co.uk/page5.htm


dshtrains
(Member)
01/22/09 09:50 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Hi. I have the Poolewood Euro 2000, bought from David Ellsworth. It is terrific and a very solid machine. If you can find one, get it.

David


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
01/22/09 01:10 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

A red lathe? My mama told me not to drive them cause they make you get speeding tickets.

I think I like the older blue models better.


Crystalini
(Member)
02/03/09 10:34 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Evening Neal,

I have the Powermatic 3520B. The HS definitely rotates (on the listing it says 'N'). It may not lock down in all positions around 360 degrees, but it can definitely rotate to do outboard turning.

Just an FYI.

Another FYI, the EVS on that machine ROCKS!!!


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
02/03/09 10:41 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Thanks for the correction! I honestly can't say I knew that (even though I've turned on one). It's funny that they don't mention that on their website product page even though they do mention the full-bed slide feature.

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
02/08/09 01:07 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Bump, thread is on vacation fo a while

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
02/18/09 09:09 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Bump

Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
03/09/09 10:42 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

So, has anyone had a chance to eyeball the new Steel City granite bed lathe yet? For a new lathe with a "Spring '09" release I'm not hearing much chatter on the grapevine.

PedroOhare
(Dome poster in Swap + Sell)
03/16/09 12:03 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Neal Addy said:


So, has anyone had a chance to eyeball the new Steel City granite bed lathe yet? For a new lathe with a "Spring '09" release I'm not hearing much chatter on the grapevine.




I just saw one in the Madison, WI Woodcraft yesterday. I was pretty impressed but I don't know a lot about lathes. It seemed pretty decent and its price ($320 as I remember) seemed pretty reasonable. THe only issues I could see (and the guy at Woodcraft showed them to me) was that they don't have a bed extension available, you can't do outbourd turning and it only has a 1/2 HP motor.

Pedro


AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
03/20/09 05:59 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Bump again

Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
03/27/09 09:43 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

The new granite bed lathe specs are now on their website.

Steel City

I'm very disappointed to see the same gaps in the speed range that plague their 5-speed model.

500, 1350, 2200, 3000, 3600

Come on, Steel City. When are you going to ask turners what they need in a lathe?


Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
04/05/09 07:37 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Well, it looks like Steel City has put all their eggs into the granite basket. The've released their EVS mini in a granite bed version and discontinued their two non-granite lathes.

Brian McInturff
(Member)
04/05/09 08:18 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

I wonder if I could get my Stubby in Granite. At no additional charge

Cape Cod
(Seagull Heathcliff...updated)
04/06/09 09:39 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Great list!

Hey since you seem to have so much time on your hands...

How about putting it in a searchable database so we can plug in our specs and it will tell us what lathe to buy!!!


Kevin77
(Member)
04/10/09 01:09 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Wood turning can be a satisfying and addictive experience, it is in itself a complete unit capable of producing finished work. You can duplicate parts to repair chairs, dig into a burl to make a bowl or make your own custom candle sticks. Wood lathes come in many sizes, from small pen lathes to huge bowl turning machines. They are designated according to the maximum diameter of material that can be swung over the bed. A lathe capable of turning an 11-inch diameter disk is referred to as an 11-inch lathe. The other dimension to be concerned with is the center to center measurement, this determines the maximum length of material that can be mounted between the headstock and tailstock.

DrMatt
(Member)
04/14/09 09:48 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Hey guys, long time no post. Neal, Scoots, glad to see you are still whacking at it. Same here, just not as frequent but still turning some of the good stuff.

Matt


mian david wilson
(Member)
05/14/09 06:27 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Hi,
thanks for providing the great list, its really constructive.


AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
07/23/09 11:59 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

BUMPPPPP

Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
09/12/09 01:35 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

First major update to the Wood Lathe Specifications list since January. Several new lathes added (and a couple dropped).

A few notable additions:
- 3 new Rikon lathes in the queue for Fall '09
- 3 new bowl lathes added from Ebo, Inc.
- New "Sit-down" lathe is available from Vicmarc
- New Grizzly H2669 beauty (don't miss this one)


Gordon Seto
(Member)
09/12/09 02:14 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Neal Addy said:


- New Grizzly H2669 beauty (don't miss this one)



You got my attention.
New rival to the American Beauty!
A class by itself; no more copy cat.


DIYdappler
(Musical Chairs)
09/12/09 06:09 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

You got me.

Angus
(Clamp Head)
09/12/09 09:39 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

I'm really liking the looks of the new Rikons. I wonder what the price point will be.

DIYdappler
(Musical Chairs)
09/13/09 02:42 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Looks like there's a new mini that is lighter and has a higher minimum speed. Not sure about that one. But the rest look real nice. I'd love one of those new ones with 20" swing and VS. The stand is nice and beefy too.

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
10/09/09 08:16 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Bumped

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
01/02/10 09:03 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

BUUMMPP

NCPaladin
(Member)
01/02/10 10:03 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

First, I appreciate your work on this. This should be the first response in any "What lathe to buy?" post.
Errors?
Nova DVR XP
(VS?) VS or EVS?
(HP) 1 3/4 HP or 1 3/4 MP

I have referred many people to your site. Wish it had been there when I was looking.
Thanks,
Mike


ZipSnipe
(Member)
01/03/10 07:22 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Hey Neal are you related to Forrest Addy?

Neal Addy
(Three Seasons Turner)
01/25/10 07:51 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Another PSI lathe added. Available in late Feb.

PSI Turncrafter Commander VS

12"x18"
2 speed ranges (150-4000)
1"x8TPI
MT#2
106 lbs
$400 MSRP



woodtoolgy
(Honored Veteran)
01/27/10 01:52 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

3520A is not avail new from powermatic... there was a new old stock one avail recently on craigs list, it needed parts tho.

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
05/28/10 04:21 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

!!!

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
01/16/11 08:07 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

bbuummpp

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
10/10/11 04:46 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

AnthonyYak said:


bbuummpp




Again


iclark
(Member)
10/10/11 08:06 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Thank you!

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
12/24/11 10:08 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
12/14/12 09:06 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

!!!!

n7bsn
(Member)
12/15/12 10:12 AM
Re: Wood Lathe List

I didn't check (bad me) has the 4224B been added?

AnthonyYak
(slightly skewed)
12/15/12 01:58 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

n7bsn said:


I didn't check (bad me) has the 4224B been added?




???


n7bsn
(Member)
12/15/12 04:21 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

AnthonyYak said:



???




Neil's list of lathes at the start of this string, and no the PM 4224 listing is of the original not the new PM 4224B


Cian
(Maxed out Honored Member)
12/16/12 11:50 PM
Re: Wood Lathe List

Yup. It is showing as "Last updated: 01/26/10".

I Indexed it anyway. It's still a valuable resource.



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