Bibliophile 13
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J. Conrad said:
OK, the list is now CLOSED. Any PM sent after the time stamp of this post will have to be left out of this build.
Thank Heavens! I was on the edge. You just saved me eighty bucks.
J. Conrad said:
Have no fear though, if this project goes well, there will be more fun in the future.
Only to keep me on edge for a future project. Guess I'd better write this into my budget ahead of time. 
Anyhow, I really appreciate the pics. Looks like you've got a great operation going on. I wish you all the best.
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Joel (Tools for Working Wood)
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I took a quick look at my Norris no 4 - which is essentially a dovetailed version of the plane we are planning to build. The length of the norris is a touch longer than the Work Magazine plane - 7 1/2" versus 7 1/8" - who cares. I had thought the mouth was a little forward but in fact it's spot on - 2" in both planes.
The wall thickness of the Norris is 1/8" .
here is a picture:
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LENPAM
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When you build the new plane you can sell that ratty old Norris No 4 to me for a resonable price that way you'll not have to look at it anymore,Len
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Joel (Tools for Working Wood)
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LENPAM said:
When you build the new plane you can sell that ratty old Norris No 4 to me for a resonable price that way you'll not have to look at it anymore,Len
Len,
I'll think about it....... Nah....... I think I will keep it.
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shoottx
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Yup, not in the budget, (meaning I am really cheap) but I am fascinated at watching the build. As a voyeur, please keep the pictures and narrative coming.
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Todd O. Cronkhite
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J. Conrad said:
All of the metal elements were scrap. The sides were 100+ year old worn-out slides from a steam locomotive.
That is so  on so many levels!
J. Conrad said:
I lost a girlfriend over this plane. Another long story.
Ya' just gotta tell us this story! 
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JimBelair
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Joel (Tools for Working Wood) said:
I took a quick look at my Norris no 4 - which is essentially a dovetailed version of the plane we are planning to build. The length of the norris is a touch longer than the Work Magazine plane - 7 1/2" versus 7 1/8" - who cares. I had thought the mouth was a little forward but in fact it's spot on - 2" in both planes.
The wall thickness of the Norris is 1/8" .
What's the blade width of that Norris? I think they were available with 1 3/4, 2 and 2 1/4 inch.
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lightwood
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James,
I have a question regarding how the throats were treated in the pattern and castings of planes.
All that I have read say the throat is cast open.
My experience with casting is not hands on, so I was thinking it possible a hole like that can cause distortion and cracking.
What makes me ask, is this rough casting of a locally made Stanley plane.
Here are a couple of pictures of a an unfinished casting of a #4 Stanley, made in Australia in 1981. There is a sacrificial block on the base that would be machined away leaving the throat open.
I've not had the chance to ask anyone with a history in the casting of iron or copper alloys...Do you think there is any merit to this approach, or is a compensation for a non-existent problem?
Thanks,
Peter
In Melbourne, Australia.
Made in Australia, Stanley #4 Plane Rough Casting.
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CedarSlayer
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lightwood said:
James,
I have a question regarding how the throats were treated in the pattern and castings of planes.
All that I have read say the throat is cast open.
My experience with casting is not hands on, so I was thinking it possible a hole like that can cause distortion and cracking.
As I recall, a lot of iron castings where left out in the weather for a year or so to let the stress relax before machining, With a rectangular opening left open, could deform badly unless it was filled like that. I even think I recall that round holes are best done like that as well. This is a dim recollection that is over 25 years old, so I may a bit off.
By the way, that unfinished casting would be great for making a casting.
Bob
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Joel (Tools for Working Wood)
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JimBelair said:
What's the blade width of that Norris? I think they were available with 1 3/4, 2 and 2 1/4 inch.
2 1/4"
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