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Chuckhead
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Little Fingers
      #4007273 - 12/01/08 08:59 AM

Yesterday I thought I would get my 6 year old away from the computer games and make a simple box with him to put his "secret" stuff in. He jumped at the chance to work with Dad in the shop. Before we started, we talked about shop safety, he put on his hearing protection and his eye protection, I showed him how/why I use a push stick on the table saw, I told him about watching where you put your hands, etc. No kidding.

I figured I would show him how to rabbet in the bottom of the box, which has a pretty high coolness factor for his age. After I cut the first rabbet on the table saw, he asked if he could help. I figured this was about the "safest" cut we could do on a table saw, since the blade was only about 1/2" above the table and the board was 3" standing on edge. In other words, a pretty long distance between fingers and a barely showing blade. Unfortunately, because the cut was so close to the fence, I couldn't use my overarm blade guard. After showing him where to put and keep his hand on the top of the board (I was the one really moving the board), we proceeded to do the cut. At the tail end, just as the board cleared the blade, he dropped his hand down - as you would imagine, I saw this happening in slow motion - and his thumb went into the blade. Those of you who have had table saw injuries have a good idea what it did to his thumb. It pretty much shredded most of the top 3/4". Thank God it was above the last joint and didn't affect tendons, etc. In the emergency room, I watched as the surgeon tried to put "thumpty dumpty" back together again. This involved clipping off bits of chipped bone and pulling out the remainder of the nail with a forecepts. Through it all, my little guy was such a toughie. He cried for about 5 minutes after the accident and then when they were putting in the novocaine, but that was it. While they were stitching up his thumb, he said he wants to help me finish the box as soon as he can use his thumb, but he'll let me do the sawing. He was, and is, in a lot better shape than I was. I've been just sick about it ever since it happened.

My wife and I both agree that it was purely an accident and that I wasn't being unsafe or inattentive, but tell that to my heart. We're hoping that there was enough skin to cover the bone and he won't need a skin graft. We're also hoping there won't be any permanent nerve damage, that his nail will grow back, etc., but only time will tell. Still, there's no question it could have been a lot worse, thank God.

In retrospect, the only two things I would have done differently would either be not letting him help on that part of the project because there's just no safe way for a 6 year old to have his hands anywhere near a spinning table saw blade, or I perhaps I should have actually had my hand on top of his. Even with the latter, I'm not 100% sure he wouldn't have dropped his hand out from under mine anyway.

My wife is encouraging me to look into buying a SawStop. Not sure if the budget can handle it, but I sure would have paid twice the price to avoid yesterday's events.

Not sure if this will fall under the category of "a word to the wise" for any of you. Hopefully you're all a lot smarter than I am.

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NiteWalker
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Re: Little Fingers new [Re: Chuckhead]
      #4007296 - 12/01/08 09:13 AM

A sawstop would've prevented it but IMHO (and I'm not judging here) a 6 year old is too young for even closely supervised tablesaw use.

It's great that you involved him in your work. To him, I'm sure, it was worth the boo boo he got. Don't doubt yourself, this doesn't make you a bad father. The bad fathers are the ones who involve their kids in absolutely nothing they do.

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BandMan
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Re: Little Fingers new [Re: Chuckhead]
      #4007298 - 12/01/08 09:14 AM

We'll be hoping for a speedy recovery...what a heartbreaker. My thoughts are with you and your son.

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Allen
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Re: Little Fingers new [Re: Chuckhead]
      #4007316 - 12/01/08 09:20 AM

Not gonna beat up big time on you, you will do enough of that to yourself, but 6yrs is just too young for that type of machine. Hope he heals up quickly.

Al

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RokJok
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Re: Little Fingers new [Re: Chuckhead]
      #4007331 - 12/01/08 09:27 AM

I'm mighty sorry to hear of your son's accident. The fact that he wants to help finish the box when he's recuperated speaks volumes about his "get back on the horse" attitude. Bravo for him! Hope he heals quickly and completely.

How about restricting his part of projects to non-machining activities (have him do layout & marking, hammering, gluing & clamping, painting and finishing) or have him work with hand tools where accidents will hopefully happen slower? Then ease him into power tools with sessions on the bandsaw, drill press, and feeding wood through covered machines like planer & drum sanders. Once he's mastered them, move onto the machines where the chances for hurt are higher -- jointer, router table, and table saw -- due to exposed or semi-exposed cutters.

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Bill Holt
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Re: Little Fingers new [Re: Chuckhead]
      #4007380 - 12/01/08 09:49 AM

What a dreadful experience! I'll bet it makes both of you safer wood workers. I have four grandsons 6 or younger. Three of them have spent countless hours in the shop. None are tall enough to work at the TS yet but they are agar. The five yr old smashed his finger Sat. when the head of a K body slid down the bar.

All accidents can not be avoided. Accidents can be great teachers. The time spent with your son far out weighs that horrible moment. Get him back in the shop as soon as he is ready.

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Jim Tincher
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Re: Little Fingers new [Re: Chuckhead]
      #4007398 - 12/01/08 09:59 AM

At that age about the only safe tool is either a drill press or a scroll saw, band saws and table saws are out of the question. Kid's that small don't have the motor skills, strength or reach to handle anything else.

I hope your kid recovers.

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PoolQ
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Re: Little Fingers new [Re: Chuckhead]
      #4007401 - 12/01/08 10:01 AM

Sorry to hear the news.
They don't come with instructions, learn as you go.
I took my two boys on a kiddie roller coster, thought it would be fun, it was not. Live and learn.


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mound
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Re: Little Fingers new [Re: Chuckhead]
      #4007416 - 12/01/08 10:08 AM

ooooh cringe.. sorry to hear about this, glad he's basically OK..

While I agree that 6yrs is probably too young to do it himself, what was going on in my mind while reading your story, before you even got to the part about him cutting himself, was that having 2 sets of hands on the workpiece is what created the problem. If he were actually doing the cut himself with you watching, his hands would not have dropped away. Yah, you could have completely taken his hands in yours, but that still leads to a situation where you've got potential for loss of control, and potential for confusion over who exactly is doing the work.

Hope this doesn't scare him away from woodworking!


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stav
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Re: Little Fingers new [Re: Chuckhead]
      #4007432 - 12/01/08 10:16 AM

Sounds like a little trooper. I have two little ones and can't imagine how hard that must have been to watch. I hope he gets better soon.

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