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Sundowner
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looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor
      #4246056 - 04/03/09 06:21 PM

I know this is a sensitive subject on some other forums, but just to toss into the mix, I'm looking at buying one of two table saws: either the newer Grizzly G0690 table saw, or the SawStop contractor saw. If I got the SawStop, I'd probably go with the better fence, cast iron wings, and a mobile base, but it's a big not to swallow over the Grizzly, and it's still a contractor saw vs. a cabinet saw. I have a hard time walking away from a loaded cabinet saw to pay MORE for a base contractor saw that still needs to be optioned-up. The sawstop cabinet saw is beautiful, but I can't justify a $4000 saw.

The counterpoint is that while I may be OCD about losing a finger, my wife is using my tools more as she gets into woodworking, herself, and that makes me nervous for her. Any thoughts?


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Bill_de
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Re: looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor new [Re: Sundowner]
      #4246060 - 04/03/09 06:23 PM

It's your decision, but ask yourself how you will feel if your wife loses a finger.

Money is ... well ... only money.

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DanWilleford
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Re: looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor new [Re: Sundowner]
      #4246091 - 04/03/09 06:46 PM

+1 on what Bil_de said

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MrOletta
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Re: looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor new [Re: DanWilleford]
      #4246105 - 04/03/09 06:57 PM

Maybe the Grizzly saw and take out some accident insurance? I know there are some policies that pay quite a bit for a lost finger!

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Tapper
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Re: looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor new [Re: Sundowner]
      #4246120 - 04/03/09 07:07 PM

I'm a huge Grizzly fan but am admittedly biased when it comes to table saws - I just got through assembling my SawStop PCS today, took it on a "maiden voyage" and am very impressed with it and the company. Got in on the field test program for this Professional Cabinet Saw and am glad I did (3 HP saw with 36" extension table, delivered for $2,499). This saw replaces a 3 HP Unisaw for me. Safety was the primary reason for me taking this step.

Don't want to get into a flame war, but no other table saw offers the protection against potential catastrophic injury that this saw does. You will have to decide how important it is to you.

Good luck,

Doug


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mongo
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Re: looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor new [Re: Tapper]
      #4246132 - 04/03/09 07:16 PM

I would look into the new mid line sawstop table saw. As was stated above the price is much less than the Industrial version I own but still wont cut your finger off. Call up sawstop I think they are still accepting people for the market trial.

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modestmouser
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Re: looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor new [Re: mongo]
      #4246293 - 04/03/09 08:57 PM

mongo said:


...but still wont cut your finger off...




is this "really" true? all the demo's i've seen seem to address the situation of someone pushing wood through the blade while looking off to the side.

what happens when you somehow fall on the blade? what if someone's ripping a dado or something... or using some funky jig in a precarious manner and their hand slips and comes down on the blade at a higher speed?

i wasn't lured by sawstop because i'm more afraid of this type of scenario than i am of not paying attention....i'm also afraid of kickbacks, and sawstop doesn't do anything unique for that. in my new saw, i felt that a riving knife would handle the majority of dangerous situations.

please.... someone set me straight if they've got knowledge of how sawstop helps you in cases other than pushing stock through slowly and getting distracted.

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barryvabeach
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Re: looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor new [Re: modestmouser]
      #4246317 - 04/03/09 09:10 PM

Go to the website and they have a full description of what it does, once the blade senses flesh is stops unbelievably quickly and at the same time it drops below the table. You are right about the demo, they are moving a hot dog at a fairly leisurely pace, and the manual makes clear that the extent of your injury will depend, in part, on how fast you are moving into the saw. If your hand falls at a higher speed, it will get more than a nick, though if that happened with any other table saw, it would be pretty bad. To Sundowner, if you can afford to wait a while, I read that SS will come out with a hybrid after they release the professional cabinet saw, that may be the best price to value saw they offer. As you point out, the feature v. price comparison between the SS contractor saw and the Grizzly isn't very flattering to SS. That said, I bought a Grizzly bandsaw and love it, but when you read about the SS manual and see how well written it is, and how they package their parts, you can understand at least some of the price difference.

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rschissler
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Re: looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor new [Re: modestmouser]
      #4246321 - 04/03/09 09:13 PM

modestmouser said:


mongo said:


...but still wont cut your finger off...




is this "really" true? all the demo's i've seen seem to address the situation of someone pushing wood through the blade while looking off to the side.

what happens when you somehow fall on the blade? what if someone's ripping a dado or something... or using some funky jig in a precarious manner and their hand slips and comes down on the blade at a higher speed?

i wasn't lured by sawstop because i'm more afraid of this type of scenario than i am of not paying attention....i'm also afraid of kickbacks, and sawstop doesn't do anything unique for that. in my new saw, i felt that a riving knife would handle the majority of dangerous situations.

please.... someone set me straight if they've got knowledge of how sawstop helps you in cases other than pushing stock through slowly and getting distracted.



There have been Sawstop tests where a "high speed" hand or hotdog hit the blade and the brake still worked as advertised.


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modestmouser
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Re: looking to start a fight maybe? Griz GO690 or Sawstop Contractor new [Re: rschissler]
      #4246373 - 04/03/09 09:52 PM

i see. super! i'll stand corrected.

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