Risky Wood
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I need a new miter gauge - mostly for cutting multiple pieces to the same length. I have read many previous messages about miter gauges and am leaning towards the Incra 1000SE. What does everyone think about it? Thanks in advance for your input!
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jgrogan
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I have the 1000se and I love it. Precise cuts when you need it.
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Csevin
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I have the 1000HD...and I really like it.
I cut some really odd angled miters, for example...the other day, 49.6 degrees. Using the HD it's actually pretty easy to dial in those sorts of things. I probably haven't taken advantage of all of the functionality it offers...but for that fact alone, it has been well worth it.
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CARYinWA
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My only complaint with the 1000se is the need to shim the fence perpendicular to the table. It is not hard to do I feel that this does not change vary from saw to saw and a guage at this level should be true. Once that is done, it is a great miter gauge.
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daveferg
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On my second 1000SE (first one sold with old table saw) and it's great---does everything I need. What initially sold me was that their other, more expensive gauges were extremely heavy. Since the gauge comes off and goes on the saw frequently, wanted something easier to handle. I looked at the HD and unless you need detents at all those angles, I'd save your money and buy the SE.
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EdL
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jgrogan said:
I have the 1000se and I love it. Precise cuts when you need it.
+1
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Bøb
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Another 1000SE fan ... it just seems to always be exactly what I need.
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toolie
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-1 on the incra 1000. got it as part of an amazon deal and i rarely use it. i don't care for how it feel as it slides across the CI table top. i wouldn't buy it again. the v27 looks to be a more than ample unit at around half the cost. it's only material deficiency is that the degree marks on the head don't extend to the edge that is immediately adjacent to the angle indicator mark.
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jsears
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I have a Woodhaven and really like it 
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Steve K
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I had my heart set on the 1000hd but a fellow on the wood forum talked me into the 1000se. I've had it about two weeks now and at this point I couldn't be happier with it. It's everything I could want in a miter gauge. I don't know if they still have it but I got mine from Amazon for $120 something with free shipping.
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Just_Dave
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jsears said:
I have a Woodhaven and really like it
+1 on the Woodhaven One of the best investments I have ever made 
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Mr_Mike
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I'm a fan of Kreg miter gauges.
I got two. One set up righty, the other lefty.
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jason conway
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I have a 1000SE and rarely use it. I used to use it a lot, then I built myself a good crosscut sled. Almost never use my miter gauge anymore.
Can't go wrong with the incra though.
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Gregory of Sherwood Forest
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I have the 1000HD, but I rarely use it. It is most useful to me when i am cutting thick stock. It is very accurate and easy to use, though.
I most often reach for my DUBBY!!!! I have the Double Dubby and it is awesome.
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brad patch
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Gregory of Sherwood Forest said:
I have the 1000HD, but I rarely use it. It is most useful to me when i am cutting thick stock. It is very accurate and easy to use, though.
I most often reach for my DUBBY!!!! I have the Double Dubby and it is awesome.
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+1 on the Dubby. Tried a Incra (can't remember the model.) Way over engineered! Too many parts, fussy set-up. Much happier with my Dubby.
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vernonator
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I have the Osborne EB-3 and love it...super accurate, easy to flip left/right...
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Robert Adams
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I have a V27 with a 4' incra fence that I use on my sliding table and am very happy with it. I did have to take the uhmw rollers out of it for it to lock into the table right. (only cause of the sliding table) I would like to replace my v27 with the V120 as I have a need for more angle notches.
I love the fence and would like to have them on all my machines.
I also have the DW version of the osborne and with a little shimming of pieces with tiny washers I really like it and use it most of the time.
The 100se is a very good tool and I have used it with no complaints other than the fence was a little short for my needs.
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w6wat
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I've got the 1000SE and I love it! However, I had to buy an additional lexan scale oriented opposite from the way the tool is initially sent. It makes reading the scale much easier. It will handle a lot of projects, but you have to reset and re calibrate when you want to switch lefty to righty. I use it with my CM Hybrid.
I also have the smart miter sled from jointech on my Powermatic 66. It's an awesome piece of equipment as it cuts both lefty-righty without having to move it. It extends "way out there" with precision. Worth every penny.
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grump
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Miter Gauge - Incra 1000SE , 1000HD, or other?
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bought the 1000SE and feel for that much money for something that is to be an upgrade at the very least the fence should sit square to the table
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The Wood Nerd
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I have the 1000HD. The only thing I don't like about it is that it's such a major pain to swap it between right and left. However, I do it so often that I'm actively looking for another miter gauge to either replace the Incra or to set up with each one living permanently on one side.
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sylvius
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I couldn't live without my Incra 5000. Might be overkill for what you are cutting, but I use it for all miter cuts. The things I like best about it are: 1) you cut the edge of the board when setting it up, so that shows you the exact location of the side of the blade (assuming you use the same blade all the time with miter cuts), so I just slide a board until my mark lines up with the end of the panel and the cut is perfect; 2) I can confidently cut boards that are 16" wide and 4' long with it--try doing that with another miter gauge.
At any rate, it might be bigger than you want and overkill for what you need, but I absolutely love it.
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dog2bert
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What material did you use to shim the fence?
Anyone with the 1000HD, has the fence issue been fixed?
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CARYinWA
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I used an aluminum pop can.
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The Wood Nerd
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dog2bert said:
1000HD, has the fence issue been fixed?
What fence issue? 
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CARYinWA said:
I used an aluminum pop can.
Same thing I used.
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CARYinWA
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I think he wants to know if the 1000HD hsa the same "fence not square to the table" problem that the 1000se does, and if the 1000se ever got fixed.
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Steve N
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CARYinWA said:
My only complaint with the 1000se is the need to shim the fence perpendicular to the table.
Kreg`s miter gauge is dead nutz right out of the box, and incredibly enough stays that way.
With fence
Or without
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Spotcheck
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dog2bert said:
What material did you use to shim the fence?
Anyone with the 1000HD, has the fence issue been fixed?
Had my HD for a few years. I had to shim the fence. I used a double layer of strips cut from business cards. Took nearly 10 minutes to do it, and its been fine since. That shouldn't dissuade you, IMO.
On the comment about switching left-to-right - two allen key bolts to loosen and retighten - that takes me nearly 30 seconds. I don't see it as an issue, to be honest. Plus - I use my HD for bevel cuts and for dado cuts, and I like to have the fence close to the blade - which means that I have to adjust it regularly, even if I'm not switching sides. Again, NBD.
I read somewhere that a fella replaced those bolts with ones that had a lever-type arm attached, so he could do it without the tool. Makes perfect sense, but I didn't bother.
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Spotcheck said:
dog2bert said:
What material did you use to shim the fence?
Anyone with the 1000HD, has the fence issue been fixed?
Had my HD for a few years. I had to shim the fence. I used a double layer of strips cut from business cards. Took nearly 10 minutes to do it, and its been fine since. That shouldn't dissuade you, IMO.
On the comment about switching left-to-right - two allen key bolts to loosen and retighten - that takes me nearly 30 seconds. I don't see it as an issue, to be honest. Plus - I use my HD for bevel cuts and for dado cuts, and I like to have the fence close to the blade - which means that I have to adjust it regularly, even if I'm not switching sides. Again, NBD.
I read somewhere that a fella replaced those bolts with ones that had a lever-type arm attached, so he could do it without the tool. Makes perfect sense, but I didn't bother.
I replace the allen head bolts, with ratchet head bolts. Not shown is the other one I replaced, which locks the fence extension. It saves a lot of time, not having to use the d%#& tool.
I also replaced the 2 allen head screws, that lock the fence stop to the track, with thumb screws.
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Spotcheck
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Yep....thar she blows........thanks....I simply could not recall where I saw it. Nicely done.
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The Wood Nerd
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Spotcheck said:
switching left-to-right - two allen key bolts to loosen and retighten - that takes me nearly 30 seconds. I don't see it as an issue, to be honest.
That's if you're only using the main section. If you're using the extension, you have to remove the screw holding it to the slide bar, reattach it to the other end, and then install the slide bar into the other side.
It also appears you're not using the scales. If you are, you have to re-calibrate it every time you move the fence in any way.
Those two thing make it the major pain I was talking about.
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SFwood58
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jgrogan said:
I have the 1000se and I love it. Precise cuts when you need it.
I also have the Incra 1000SE. It is a very precise miter gauge at a reasonable price. Last time I checked Amazon had it for about $120. I highly recommend it.
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Spotcheck
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The Wood Nerd said:
Spotcheck said:
switching left-to-right - two allen key bolts to loosen and retighten - that takes me nearly 30 seconds. I don't see it as an issue, to be honest.
That's if you're only using the main section. If you're using the extension, you have to remove the screw holding it to the slide bar, reattach it to the other end, and then install the slide bar into the other side.
It also appears you're not using the scales. If you are, you have to re-calibrate it every time you move the fence in any way.
Those two thing make it the major pain I was talking about.
You are correct on all counts. Didn't think through those points....
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Cian
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The Wood Nerd said:
That's if you're only using the main section. If you're using the extension, you have to remove the screw holding it to the slide bar, reattach it to the other end, and then install the slide bar into the other side.
It also appears you're not using the scales. If you are, you have to re-calibrate it every time you move the fence in any way.
Those two thing make it the major pain I was talking about.
I would figure that would apply to ANY miter gauge. But you're right, and I have read where some here have two of these - one for either side of the blade.
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w6wat
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Spotcheck said:
The Wood Nerd said:
Spotcheck said:
switching left-to-right - two allen key bolts to loosen and retighten - that takes me nearly 30 seconds. I don't see it as an issue, to be honest.
That's if you're only using the main section. If you're using the extension, you have to remove the screw holding it to the slide bar, reattach it to the other end, and then install the slide bar into the other side.
It also appears you're not using the scales. If you are, you have to re-calibrate it every time you move the fence in any way.
Those two thing make it the major pain I was talking about.
You are correct on all counts. Didn't think through those points....
As I said I have a 1000SE and love it. I use it regularly, but it's such a pain to switch sides I only use it for certain things. When I cut frames out to 48" for pictures, table edges, cabinet doors etc., I use my Jointech Smart Miter. I can cut a piece to the proper size with inside/outside/one of each mitered ends without having to move or recalibrate anything once the first cut is made. It is machined from 1/2" Phenolic, and the fence is heavy wall aluminum. It telescopes to 48" with a flip stop and has a hold down clamp. There are other accessories available, but you can make your own such as: a tenoning attachment. It's rather expensive at first glance, but if you buy two Incras, one for each side of the blade, you're about at the same cost. The Incras aren't as heavy walled as the Jointech, and they don't have the same length capability. If I were to have only one miter gauge/sled, it would be the Jointech product. 
And.....by the way, I changed all applicable allen bolts to thumbscrews or lever knobs as well. It makes all the difference in the world. The lever knobs were acquired from McMaster Carr.
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Cary
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Spotcheck said:
As I said I have a 1000SE and love it. I use it regularly, but it's such a pain to switch sides I only use it for certain things. When I cut frames out to 48" for pictures, table edges, cabinet doors etc., I use my Jointech Smart Miter. I can cut a piece to the proper size with inside/outside/one of each mitered ends without having to move or recalibrate anything once the first cut is made. It is machined from 1/2" Phenolic, and the fence is heavy wall aluminum. It telescopes to 48" with a flip stop and has a hold down clamp. There are other accessories available, but you can make your own such as: a tenoning attachment. It's rather expensive at first glance, but if you buy two Incras, one for each side of the blade, you're about at the same cost. The Incras aren't as heavy walled as the Jointech, and they don't have the same length capability. If I were to have only one miter gauge/sled, it would be the Jointech product.
And.....by the way, I changed all applicable allen bolts to thumbscrews or lever knobs as well. It makes all the difference in the world. The lever knobs were acquired from McMaster Carr.
I just came across this thread, which is now nearly a year old. I've ordered the Incra Miter Express/1000SE combo and plan to follow your example by replacing the allen bolts on the 1000SE. If you still happen to have your McMaster-Carr receipt, would you mind posting the part numbers?
I too had a Jointech Smartmiter, which I liked very much. Unfortunately, I sold it and, with Jointech's demise, it appears the product is no longer available. (We were moving to a house with a smaller shop and I thought I wouldn't have room for a tablesaw. Since then, I found room for a Sawstop Pro.)
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SFwood58
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Another vote for the 1000SE. I've had mine for about three years and love it. It's very well made, easy to adjust and accurate, at least for the type of cuts I make. At the price Amazon is selling it for it's also a pretty good deal when compared to after market miter gauges from other manufacturers.
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SFwood58
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LOL. I just noticed that I had already commented in this thread recommending the 1000SE back in April. I guess this thread has been going on for awhile, and by now I assume the OP has already purchased a new miter gauge.
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Tim the tool man
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I can't believe I am the only one using the Jessem miter?
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CARYinWA
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Tim the tool man said:
I can't believe I am the only one using the Jessem miter?
I'm not. Word on the street was there was a lot of slop in the pins, the pins were a PITA to mess with, and it was heavy and clunky. I'm not saying any of the information is true, it is just what I have read numerous times.
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Tim the tool man
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I've owned both and prefer the Jessem. Both work great...
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i ripped off the dubby sled idea and made my own miter sled. It is the greatest shop made tool i've made. dialing in .1* is easy. My rail is about 36" so that far out, .1* is something like 3/8''. When i posted pictures, someone challenged me to make a 7 sided polygon. my first attempt was nearly perfect and i dialed it in on the second try. very happy, and i have maybe $5 in hardware and sheet goods.
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