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KingwoodFan1989
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Darkening fresh cherry
      #5973365 - 06/28/12 12:32 AM

I'm about to do my second attempt at my table top (without sanding through the veneer this time ) and the table base has darkened somewhat. I kind of like it, but is there a way to get fresh cherry to darken quickly after surfacing?

I've read a bit about it, and sunlight is said to help. However, if I let it sit outside, won't it warp? Yes, I could let it sit and then face joint and face plane it to flatten it again, but that would take away the slight patina.

Also, if I used a very light stain on the fresh cherry to get it to match, would the cherry darken differently than that which isn't stained?

It's gonna have shellac as a topcoat, but isn't the wood going to darken anyway?

Any good ways to darken fresh cherry and have it age to the same color as some slightly older cherry?

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LENPAM
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Re: Darkening fresh cherry new [Re: KingwoodFan1989]
      #5973366 - 06/28/12 12:40 AM

Set it in the sunlight and it will darken,other then that you'll need to stain it or use some other artificial means,Len

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Bøb
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Re: Darkening fresh cherry new [Re: LENPAM]
      #5973368 - 06/28/12 12:45 AM

A very weak solution of Lye + Water will accelerate the natural darkening/coloring process, without the fear of blotching. No stain ... nothing artificial ... just speeding up what will happen over time.

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KingwoodFan1989
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Re: Darkening fresh cherry new [Re: Bøb]
      #5973373 - 06/28/12 12:58 AM

Bob, could you tell me more about Lye? Also, just so I can test it, if I put it on will the cherry show up fresh again if I plane it just in case I don't like it?

Do they sell lye at home centers or some other stores? And what is the process and other such things like the mix ratio with water, application tools, wiping away the excess etc?

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-2 Nightstands (Oak with figured walnut drawer fronts)
-Curly Maple display case


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Steve N
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Re: Darkening fresh cherry new [Re: KingwoodFan1989]
      #5973395 - 06/28/12 04:56 AM

Please allow me to Google that for you


It`s a subject almost everyone brings up at some time, about Cherry. Like a lot of things woodworking, lots of ways to skin that cat, all have advocates.

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bigfrank
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Re: Darkening fresh cherry new [Re: KingwoodFan1989]
      #5973408 - 06/28/12 05:36 AM

Pretty difficult.
As was said just letting it sit in the sun is best.
We've tried a weak stain to accelerate it to match an existing piece, not very satisfactory, it looked too dark after a while.

Frank.


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Humanbackhoe
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Re: Darkening fresh cherry new [Re: KingwoodFan1989]
      #5973434 - 06/28/12 06:11 AM

I wouldn't do anything to the cherry. The natural darkening starts immediately and will change quite a bit in two weeks. Certainly, I wouldn't set wood in direct sunlight, as, ambient sunlight will change the wood anyway, especially a table top, without risk of warp.

Be patient

Andrew

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JGrout
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Re: Darkening fresh cherry new [Re: bigfrank]
      #5973464 - 06/28/12 06:53 AM

bigfrank said:


Pretty difficult.
As was said just letting it sit in the sun is best.
We've tried a weak stain to accelerate it to match an existing piece, not very satisfactory, it looked too dark after a while.

Frank.




yep same experience. tends to go greyish so when you think you have it about right it was too much.

time does the best job. all else takes diligence and luck.

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MsNomer
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Re: Darkening fresh cherry new [Re: KingwoodFan1989]
      #5973505 - 06/28/12 07:38 AM

You won't notice the difference nearly as much as you think you would as you wait. The base will be in shadow anyway. The woods won't be side-by-side for comparison as you can put them now.

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Richard D.
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Re: Darkening fresh cherry new [Re: KingwoodFan1989]
      #5973519 - 06/28/12 07:52 AM

Let it darken naturally. As you've mentioned and we have seen examples on WN, setting it in the sun can cause warps, cracks and weakened joinery. The projects I have built from Cherry look better now than when I built them. A brighter room will speed the process.

It is nice to realize that every few years I appreciate a piece more and more. Instant gratification will wear off.

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