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longbarrel50
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Cleaning a curly maple table top? new
      #5975708 - 06/29/12 02:30 PM

I bought a fairly old table yesterday made of curley maple. The table has a nice patina, but unfortunately the top has been neglected. It has water stains from a glass, a dark area from something spilled on it and a small area where the natural patina is much lighter in color. I would like to clean the top to even out the patina/finish without removing the patina. What would you recommend?
I'll be out of town a few days and can post pictures when I return.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Chris


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Tim Becker
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Re: Cleaning a curly maple table top? new [Re: longbarrel50]
      #5975714 - 06/29/12 02:34 PM

Do you plan on selling the table? I ask because the only factor in removing the patina would be devaluing the table. I can't think of any method in removing the stains you state without removing the patina around said stains.

But wiser words may follow.

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JR1
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Re: Cleaning a curly maple table top? new [Re: longbarrel50]
      #5975800 - 06/29/12 03:46 PM

I basically agree with the above. Is there a finish on the table? If so what?

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AHill
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Re: Cleaning a curly maple table top? new [Re: longbarrel50]
      #5976154 - 06/29/12 10:19 PM

You might get more answers if you post this on the Finishing forum.

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bigfrank
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Re: Cleaning a curly maple table top? new [Re: longbarrel50]
      #5976284 - 06/30/12 07:20 AM

Sometimes a piece of furniture just gets beyond decorative use. Practical use, yes it is still useable, the rings and stains won't cause it to collapse, it just depeneds on how you want to use it.

Frank.


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clockman
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Re: Cleaning a curly maple table top? new [Re: longbarrel50]
      #5976822 - 06/30/12 09:18 PM

I always like this article.

http://extension.usu.edu/files/publications/publication/fl-hi-500.pdf


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bhh
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Re: Cleaning a curly maple table top? new [Re: clockman]
      #5978313 - 07/02/12 01:42 PM

I always like these two articles:

http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/save_finish.shtml

http://www.masterpiecefurniture.com/design_notes/flexner/antiques_roadshow.html (aka "Antiques Roadshow considered Harmful")


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longbarrel50
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Re: Cleaning a curly maple table top? [Re: longbarrel50]
      #5980910 - 07/04/12 03:15 PM

I just returned from Colorado Springs to attend a wedding. They have the fires mostly contained, though the devistation to the communities up in the mountains is terrible. A very beautiful place though. I wish we had more time to explore it.
I appreciate all the replies. Attached is a photo of the top. Let me know what you think I should do to it.

Chris



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JR1
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Re: Cleaning a curly maple table top? new [Re: longbarrel50]
      #5981021 - 07/04/12 05:49 PM

What kind of finish is on it now? Try a little DNA and see if it softens,if it does then its shellac and might be repairable—but that looks like a lot of damage. I'd probably take the finish off. If its shellac then I'd use DNA to soften it and then use these to remove the softened shellac. Then I'd just apply a new coat of shellac from these guys , I'd try Garnet. Probably 2 to 3 coats of a 1#cut.

Otherwise I'd use a methylene Chloride stripper and give it a light sand. Then I'd put an oil finish on it. Like Tried and True Danish oil. Don't make the mistake of using Tried & True varnish oil.

That looks like an oil finish and if it is you may be able to remove the damage by wiping with MS.

In either case I'd topcoat it with either GF High Performance or Crystalac Poly-ox so the problem doesn't happen again; but test and see what you like.

I live up near Cripple Creek and with 24 shut down for a week things were starting to get tight; luckily it reopened Monday. Quite a few homes were burned near pyramid mountain and in Colorado Springs. One of my friends who lives in the Springs had the fire burn to within 100' of his house.

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longbarrel50
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Re: Cleaning a curly maple table top? new [Re: longbarrel50]
      #5981136 - 07/04/12 08:10 PM

JR1
We drove through Cripple Creek and Victor. It sure was a pretty drive. Left some money in Cripple Creek.
Thanks for the info on cleaning the table top. I'll start working on it next week.
Chris


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