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Cloudy
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question for the saw makers
      #5980928 - 07/04/12 03:38 PM

Good news and bad news about Woodnet- both answers are that I want to try whatever is being chatted about. Now it's saws... I was given a bunch of real beaters, all rusted up with nasty handles (Evapo Rust took care of the rust & I can certainly rehandle)
My question is, the last 2 of the bunch are VERY large. I'm not.
How hard would it be to have someone (here's where you come in!) cut them back to a more usable size for me????
You guys (non-genderspecific term) ROCK!

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Isaac S
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: Cloudy]
      #5980933 - 07/04/12 03:45 PM

Cloudy,

Are these backsaws or handsaws? It would be easy for me to cut them down for you, but doing so will change the geometry and make it feel a lot different than the way it does now. If you rehandle, that is not an issue. Post some pictures if you can, and we may be able to provide better answers.

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mattsworld
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: Cloudy]
      #5981495 - 07/05/12 09:41 AM

Catherine

I'm happy to help as well. I'd love to see pics of them...and thoughts on how you might want to cut them down.

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MarvW
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: Cloudy]
      #5981520 - 07/05/12 10:11 AM

Hi Cathrine,

If all you need is to shorten a saw blade, it can be done using a hacksaw with a new blade in it. The trick is to clamp the blade between three pieces of wood. One piece is under the blade and the other two pieces on top with one piece on each side of where you want to make the cut. Clamp the whole assembly on a solid surface with the part you will be cutting, over-hanging. When you saw, use a low angle. A sharp hacksaw blade will cut a handsaw blade quite easily and you can follow a scribed line. After shortening the saw blade, file the hacksawed edge smooth. Give it a try on one of the worst saws just for practice.

Here's a picture of how I do it. The solid surface in this example is the table on my Radial Arm Saw.


This is after the saw blade has been cut.


This is before the cut was made...


This is the saw after shortening it.


The purpose of shortening this saw was to make what I call a "poor man's tenon saw". It is filed rip for cutting end grain for extra large tenons.


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Cloudy
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: Cloudy]
      #5981527 - 07/05/12 10:18 AM

notice the authentic saw nut!


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RoundToit
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: Cloudy]
      #5981654 - 07/05/12 11:54 AM

There is a certain irony going on here.

Notice how the handle has a nice flat square front, it is from a combination saw. The "U" shape on the upper part of the handle held the scribe (should be a hole in the bottom of the "U").

The irony is it is attached to a swayback saw, not the best for a ruled edge which is what combination saws had on their top edge.

If you are looking for a shorter hand saw look for a panel saw. Hard to find a panel saw filed rip but it could always be resharpened.

Good luck
Rick

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Cloudy
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: RoundToit]
      #5981731 - 07/05/12 01:08 PM

So THAT'S what that funny thing stuck in the U is! It's still there...

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Funky Space Cowboy
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: Cloudy]
      #5981897 - 07/05/12 03:52 PM

As it happens I actually wrote up a nice how to guide on doing this on Make:Magazine's project wiki a few months ago:
http://makeprojects.com/Project/Restore-a-Vintage-Handsaw-for-Everyday-Use/576/1

It's written for the maker crowd that doesn't have much exposure to vintage hand tools already but should still have plenty of good info anyone with an old saw to mangle

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Skip J.
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: Funky Space Cowboy]
      #5981980 - 07/05/12 04:37 PM

Excellent article Josh!

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Cloudy
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: Skip J.]
      #5982056 - 07/05/12 05:48 PM

+1!

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Skip J.
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Re: question for the saw makers new [Re: Cloudy]
      #5982391 - 07/06/12 06:31 AM

Umm, sorry... excellent article to you Cloudy, I always enjoy your posts, but never have said so...

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