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®smpr_fi_mac®
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Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni?
      #5985527 - 07/09/12 01:10 PM

If so should I jump on a 3ph $150 Uni that shows definite age (well worn patina), but has all the parts, and was disassembled for moving?

I have a 3ph converter for my Rockwell lathe and will use it if it'll work, or I'll just buy another converter and mount it to the saw if you guys say I should jump on it...

I'm using a Ridgid TS2424 now and have been offered a Rockwell Model 10 Contractor's Saw by a friend that needs some TLC to get it running again.

What say you?

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TDKPE
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Re: Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni? new [Re: ®smpr_fi_mac®]
      #5985555 - 07/09/12 01:30 PM

A Uni is a Uni. Over the many decades they were made, they were cheapened a little at a time, but even a late 70's Rockwell Int. era or a late 90's Uni like the one I bought new on clearance is a much heavier and solid saw than a Model 10. You might have to put a lot of money into it, though, so do be careful. But even if it needs work, you'll still end up with a lot of saw for less than $1k.

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®smpr_fi_mac®
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Re: Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni? new [Re: TDKPE]
      #5985568 - 07/09/12 01:37 PM

Thanks, Tom. Consider it bought!

Even if I decide it needs too much work, I can just put it on CL again...

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Re: Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni? new [Re: ®smpr_fi_mac®]
      #5985573 - 07/09/12 01:40 PM

Structurally speaking, the older the better. Every time the parent company was sold, some "value engineering" was introduced. Not that they ever were bad, but one from the 60s will have heavier castings than one from the 80s, etc.

A table saw is really a simple machine, and unless it's fallen off the back of a truck, a worst-case scenario would be replacing bearings in the motor and arbor, and perhaps some electrical work to make sure it spins. The pre-Biesemeyer fences weren't so hot, so that would also be a consideration.

Beyond that a rebuild is mostly cleaning up grime and rust. It's a good value depending on your tolerance for the above.

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TDKPE
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Re: Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni? new [Re: ®smpr_fi_mac®]
      #5985584 - 07/09/12 01:50 PM

Just be sure it's really a Unisaw. I've seen several different models advertised as Unisaw that weren't. But if it's three-phase, that lets out the hybrids (often mistakenly listed), so unless it's a 12-14", which looks like a Unisaw on steroids (really nice saw, but a beast), it's probably the real deal.

And as boblang said above, unless a casting is broken, usually new arbor and motor bearings, plus some elbow grease to clean it up, is about all it would need. A 3-phase motor is even easier to take apart and replace the bearings on than a single-phase. A rebuilt arbor can be had with all the work already done from SawCenter.

I've used vintage Unis in commercial shops when I was young, and thought the standard fence was the bee's knees. If I didn't have a Biesemeyer on my saw, I'd have been fine with the original. Just not worth the upgrade to me, but I don't work it like many other do around here.

Post some pics. Please?

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®smpr_fi_mac®
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Re: Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni? new [Re: TDKPE]
      #5985589 - 07/09/12 01:54 PM

Here are the pics from the ad:








It's an hour and a half drive to his house, so if in the next hour, if there are any reservations, speak up, or forever hold your peace!

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Re: Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni? new [Re: ®smpr_fi_mac®]
      #5985592 - 07/09/12 01:56 PM

What are you waiting for?

GO!

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TDKPE
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Re: Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni? new [Re: ®smpr_fi_mac®]
      #5985629 - 07/09/12 02:30 PM

Looks like 60's or early 70's vintage. Even the dust door is there. And the overarm guard. And two (2) cast iron wings. Probably a low-voltage control there on the side.

As doobes said, you still here?

It's worth 5 times the asking in parts alone, if not more, by the way.

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Tom

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Edited by TDKPE (07/09/12 02:31 PM)


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Re: Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni? new [Re: ®smpr_fi_mac®]
      #5985696 - 07/09/12 03:36 PM

®smpr_fi_mac® said:

Here are the pics from the ad:




You can't go wrong with that vintage/what TDKPE said. It was built when the quality was still good and it has the rectangular opening for the motor which if you ever need to re-motor you'll be able to use a present day motor in/won't have to cut the side.

I'd be all over it and not here asking about it.

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TDKPE
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Re: Is it true that a Uni is a Uni is a Uni? new [Re: Unisaw A100]
      #5985704 - 07/09/12 03:45 PM

Unisaw A100 said:

I'd be all over it and not here asking about it.


For that price, you'd have to climb over me, if for no other reason than it would be prettier than mine when cleaned up. When it comes to vintage Delta machines, I rather like that era. Probably because it was when I first discovered machines like that. I still have the catalogs my dad had from that time, that I used to paw over endlessly.

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