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Derek Cohen
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Loc: Perth, Australia
Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks.
      #5992168 - 07/15/12 08:35 AM

For a good many years I have happily used a Stanley #346 mitre box and Disston saw. It does a good job ... so why did I want a Miilers Falls Acme? Why indeed. I suppose I was curious if all the hype was real or not.

There are few enough Stanleys in Australia. I have never seen a Millers Falls of any type. So I turned to the team on WoodNet to help out since I did not wish to risk an eBay disappointment.

Pat Zabrocki came through with a MF Acme 74A mitre box. Since I had two mitre saws at home, I did not need another, just the mitre box. However, when I later tried to fit one of them, I discovered that the 74A required a saw with a depth of 4 1/2" - 5", and the ones I had for the #346 were just 4". So I began a search for another saw.

By chance, Matt Cianci had just opened his internet doors for service. I contacted Matt, and he came up with the perfect saw - not just one that was the desired 28" long and 5" deep, but one that was from a Millers Falls Acme 74A. It has the etch and all. Plus Matt sharpened it for me!

I spent a few hours cleaning up the mitre box today. This is not a restoration, just a clean up. Perhaps one day I will remove the paint and redo that area. The box, while complete and in good condition, was grungy ... as one might expect for something that is about 80 years old and last used ...?

Here is where we started ..





Just remember, if you are going to pull something apart, get one of these magnetic trays ...



Using degreaser, steel wool, and a fine deburring wheel on the drill press, I cleaned up the steel work. Which piece do you prefer ..?





One reason for all this was aesthetic, but at the same time I want the metal to slide easily, and it needs to be polished to do so. The underside was degreased and re-oiled. All now slides or adjusts smoothly.

Here is the result ..



The saw from Matt is in excellent condition. Really excellent. All I did was remove the grunge from the wood with a little degreaser. This is not the history I seek to keep!



A little Howards wax restores the glow to the patina ..





I said it is nice, did I not ..



And the performance? I can really recommend Matt for sharpening saws ..



The mitre box is wonderfully accurate.



And so was it worthwhile? Is the Acme better than the Stanley? Absolutely yes! The Acme holds the saw more firmly, yet the saw rides more smoothly, and there is less danger of damaging teeth accidentally. What do you think?

Thanks again Pat and Matt.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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tirebob
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Derek Cohen]
      #5992293 - 07/15/12 10:53 AM

That is a sweet tool right there! Congrats AND...

















You suck!



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Phil S.
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Derek Cohen]
      #5992302 - 07/15/12 11:16 AM

Derek-

Can you tell me about the screwdrivers shown in the pic with the magnetic tray? They look to be parallel sided and quite nicely finished.

Phil


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eg54string
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Derek Cohen]
      #5992532 - 07/15/12 02:09 PM

Congrats. Every thing looks nice. Thanks for the pictures.

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Erik M
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Phil S.]
      #5992545 - 07/15/12 02:19 PM

Derek,

Very nice Langdon Mitre Box you have there. Your post was timely as I cleaned one up last weekend that is almost identical but is a 72A and so takes the smaller saw. Sadly, the shipper didn't do a great job packing it and the postie must have dropped it, breaking the corner off of the back. However, it was a fresh break and some JB Weld seems to have fixed it nicely, but it is disfigured. Other than a thorough cleaning as you have done, I soaked the deck plates to remove some corrosion and then gave them a new coat of fire engine red paint. The saw needs a sharpening but other than that it works great and will be regularly used.

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Tony Z
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Phil S.]
      #5992565 - 07/15/12 02:46 PM

Phil S. said:


Derek-

Can you tell me about the screwdrivers shown in the pic with the magnetic tray? They look to be parallel sided and quite nicely finished.

Phil




Phil,

Sheffield design and readily available. Tools for Working Wood and The Best Things both carry them.

Derek,

Real nice job on the miter box! May have to put the "shine" to mine! Tell us some details of the sharpening parameters on the saw and the species of wood cut.

T.Z.

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Derek Cohen
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Phil S.]
      #5992987 - 07/15/12 09:53 PM

Phil S. said:


Derek-

Can you tell me about the screwdrivers shown in the pic with the magnetic tray? They look to be parallel sided and quite nicely finished.

Phil




Hi Phil

I bought these a dozen years ago. They were made in Sheffield, England.

I also modified the blades by grinding them parallel. The link is here: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/ModifyingScrewdriversandTurnscrews.html



Regards from Perth

Derek

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Window Guy
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Derek Cohen]
      #5993813 - 07/16/12 03:32 PM

Derek ........ Very nice clean up that Miter Box cleaned up really nice, great find.

I will second Matt's saws and sharpening he does a great job.

Steve


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mattsworld
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Derek Cohen]
      #5994739 - 07/17/12 11:18 AM

Very cool Derek...thanks for sharing and for the plug!

Enjoy!

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Matt
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Derek Cohen
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: mattsworld]
      #5995434 - 07/17/12 06:38 PM

Hi Matt

Thanks again. One aspect I did not emphasiz, and should have, is that both you and Pat did a terrific job of packing. There was just no way that anything could have been damaged in transit. And, of course, both box and saw arrived as they were sent.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Bill Lyman
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Derek Cohen]
      #5995669 - 07/17/12 09:47 PM

Derek: That is a great purchase. I picked up an old miter saw at a flea market a couple of years ago and am now looking for a Langdon 74C. Miter boxes make sawing very easy for young grandkids (5-8) - and grandfather does not need to count their fingers before he takes them home. Miter boxes are also wonderful for small parts - so grandfather does not need to count his own fingers.

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mattsworld
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: Derek Cohen]
      #5995921 - 07/18/12 07:52 AM

Derek Cohen said:


Hi Matt

One aspect I did not emphasiz, and should have, is that both you and Pat did a terrific job of packing.

Derek




I learn from experience!

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Pat Zabrocki
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Re: Millers Falls Acme mitre box and saw ... with thanks. new [Re: mattsworld]
      #6029759 - 08/14/12 03:01 PM

Oh boy, that turned out very nice in all respects. Sorry I missed the post, I haven't be on in quite some time. Work is killing me right now but that's better than the alternative.

Again, nicely done!
Pat


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