WoodNet Forums View Today's Active Woodworking Topics
View All Today's Active Topics
Complete Back Issue Library

Active >> Woodworking Hand Tools

Pages: 1
Bwilkins
Member

Registered: 05/15/05
Posts: 385
Loc: Katy, TX
Type 2??
      #6034144 - 08/18/12 09:05 AM

Hi, all. On Patrick Leach's Blood & Gore site, in discussing the hype over Stanley bedrocks, he writes: "If you want a better plane, and one that's less costly, go with the Type 2 Bailey's. These are the best planes what Stanley ever did make."

I emailed him hoping for some elaboration, but so far I have not heard back from him. Does anyone have any further thoughts about this? I've been assuming that the Bailey Type 14s and 15s were probably the apex of the Bailey line, and I'm not sure what would distinguish a Type 2 as the best ever made. But I would like to know more!

Thanks!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Admiral
Member

Registered: 06/26/07
Posts: 6682
Loc: NJ
Re: Type 2?? new [Re: Bwilkins]
      #6034173 - 08/18/12 09:43 AM

One man's opinion, and opinions are like bellybuttons, everybody's got one. Patrick also trashes #6s, and IMHO he's dead wrong on that.

Bottom line is that a plane is a jig for an iron. The most consistent machining I've seen on planes are from T11 through T16. That's not to say that on an individual basis, earlier and later (generally up to T18, and some T19s) planes are not capable of excellent service when properly tuned and with a sharp iron.

It may be that those made up to T16 were actually used by a guy to make a living, and they fettled them when they needed fettling, and so when found they tend to work just dandy. But I've tuned up T19s to work very well too, and the wartime T17s and immediately post war T18s (made for only one year) are generally very good users.

Bottom line is how much attention Stanley paid to the production of the planes; sort of like in new planes how LV and LN pays attention, and it shows, versus Anant and Groz.

So I don't think that type alone is determinative, and I've dealt with several hundred planes. Lots of room for differing opinions.

--------------------
Elvem ipsum etiam vivere


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
eg54string
Member

Registered: 09/01/10
Posts: 564
Loc: Woodleaf, NC
Re: Type 2?? new [Re: Admiral]
      #6034551 - 08/18/12 06:39 PM

Great advice. Thanks. Eric.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
CStanford
Member

Registered: 07/28/05
Posts: 1108
Re: Type 2?? new [Re: Admiral]
      #6034803 - 08/19/12 04:43 AM

Amen to the No. 6

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Window Guy
Honored Veteran

Registered: 06/03/01
Posts: 10240
Loc: St. Cloud,Fl., USA
Re: Type 2?? new [Re: CStanford]
      #6034885 - 08/19/12 07:59 AM

....... I agree I have ( 2 ) and used them before acquiring a #7 K7 and a beautiful wooden honker I bought off of OBG. I still reach for a #6 a lot because of the size work I am doing.

Steve


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
tablesawtom
Member

Registered: 02/18/01
Posts: 2271
Loc: Nashua Ia.
Re: Type 2?? new [Re: Window Guy]
      #6035344 - 08/19/12 05:42 PM

I like to use a #6 for the rough work and then the #7 for the final. That wa the #7 is always sharp and ready to go.

Tom

--------------------
http://www.tablesawtom.com


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1
PlansNOW: Get Project Plans from Woodsmith Magazine


Extra information
3 registered and 11 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  WoodNet Manager, Gene P, Vince, K. L, McReynolds, thooks, EightFingers, fivestring©™±, Joe Fisher, barnowl, Ruffturn®, meackerman, Bibliophile 13, Blacky's Boy, Grainraiser, blackhat 

Print Thread

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Thread views: 845

Jump to

Contact Us | Contact the Moderators | Privacy Policy WoodNet Forums | WoodNet

*
UBB.threads™ 6.4.4