oreos40
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I cant understand where the corelation between how long something takes and the type of tool used qualifies art. As I have been told in some circles "this cant be considered turning" because they aren't using traditional tools or equipment. How many actualy use a spring or bowl lathe?Why are some so jugdgemental and haughty. I dont believe that the tooling is ground straight across because of the way the chip clears the workpeice. I have ground tools for woodwork for over thirty years. It very well could be a carbide insert. Most wouldnt care to turn on the machine let alone stand in front of it and make it work I believe there is a certain level of skill in his job and I do believe the CRAFTSMAN is due a little respect for what he does. Mechanicaly it is a cool peice of equipment. What makes one process better than another? Most of the time it boils down to the skill with which it is used. Any one of these blanks could be turned into a work of art. This company has chosen to provide bowls of a consistant style and pattern for those who want them at an affordable price, a price few could match because they have determined that they want to be exclusive and call themselves an artist. These bowls get used for setting the table, not sitting on a shelf. Stop being so stuck up and try to see the good in things be an encouragement instead of beating on someone elses process, product, or equipment.
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oreos40 said:
I cant understand where the corelation between how long something takes and the type of tool used qualifies art. As I have been told in some circles "this cant be considered turning" because they aren't using traditional tools or equipment. How many actualy use a spring or bowl lathe?Why are some so jugdgemental and haughty. I dont believe that the tooling is ground straight across because of the way the chip clears the workpeice. I have ground tools for woodwork for over thirty years. It very well could be a carbide insert. Most wouldnt care to turn on the machine let alone stand in front of it and make it work I believe there is a certain level of skill in his job and I do believe the CRAFTSMAN is due a little respect for what he does. Mechanicaly it is a cool peice of equipment. What makes one process better than another? Most of the time it boils down to the skill with which it is used. Any one of these blanks could be turned into a work of art. This company has chosen to provide bowls of a consistant style and pattern for those who want them at an affordable price, a price few could match because they have determined that they want to be exclusive and call themselves an artist. These bowls get used for setting the table, not sitting on a shelf. Stop being so stuck up and try to see the good in things be an encouragement instead of beating on someone elses process, product, or equipment.
Can't figure where you got the time taken = art either. Care to elaborate?
Tradition is a great thing. Common roots in our culture. Ties us to our ancestors and our children and theirs to us. Except, of course, we seem to equate any motion or commotion with "progress."
The tooling used in similar machines at a bowl factory up the way from my place was freshened by grinding straight across. Where did you see otherwise? They did have inserted "teeth." I believe the older cutters in the historical section were ground, then swaged, like the teeth on a circular saw mill.
You think art is in the process rather than the product? I think it's in the eye of the beholder not in the hope of the producer. I'm often told that what I do isn't art, but craft, by jurists and judges at shows. Paint splashers, most every one, I might add. Sticks and stones. I am reminded of my eldest son, then four years old riding piggy back as we looked at some nearly representative watercolors. "What's that look like, Nick?" asked SWMBO.
"Nothin'."
I picked up the pace a bit....
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oreos40
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http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment...ngine-doco.jpeg I didn't write as a reply to you directly. at work I cannot view videos but recognized the title. At home I can and did review the video I believe that the cutter is a hook tool and not a carbide insert. My apologies for my misstatement. I do consider the operator skilled. I do not see the error in this case of wearing gloves, there is no where a glove could become entangled with the work such as a small diameter shaft or extended set screw or the like. I am quite familiar with machine safety and why this is not general practice but I too on occasion wear gloves while turning. I am a little defensive because I have been told that the turnings I do are "not really turning", because I do not use chisels. I can, I just have, for me, found a better way. I have been told that my turnings cannot be considered art because "they are to quickly done" or "not by hand". I do not use CNC. I have a few videos on youtube making toy parts for an international distributor if you want to get an idea of my process. Here is a picture of my father and "the biggun"I have been turning since I was 6 or 7 and building jigs, fixtures and complete pieces of equipment for wood working for many years. we have made turnings that weighed over 1000 pounds as a blank and ranged in size from marbles to 24" in diameter and 16'(feet) long in a single piece. It bothers me a little bit when people appear to be looking for fault instead of fix. It is not constructive or instructive when the information cant be put to use. Excuse my thin skin. [image]http://[/image]
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