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JSpill
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What to use to install decking? new
      #6050003 - 08/30/12 04:41 PM

I'm replacing an old wood deck with composite-probably Trex. Just wondering what folks use to install it. When I pulled up the old deck most of the screws just broke because they were so rusted. I want to avoid that if I can this time. Any suggestions for what I might use would be appreciated.

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blindrid
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Re: What to use to install decking? new [Re: JSpill]
      #6050032 - 08/30/12 05:00 PM

Any of the screws made for composite. I prefer the ones that use a star bit instead of a square. Can't remember the brands though - the big boxes have a selection or local lumberyard as well.

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Re: What to use to install decking? new [Re: JSpill]
      #6050061 - 08/30/12 05:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfcGJ5DMpeA

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Woodenfish
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Re: What to use to install decking? [Re: JSpill]
      #6050157 - 08/30/12 06:29 PM

JSpill said:


I'm replacing an old wood deck with composite-probably Trex.



Why? All composite boards have mold and stain issues. There are good hardwoods available where the manufacturer hasn't been sued because of poor performance. Many homeowners of thee products are stuck with decks that the manufacturer warranty is useless because of bankruptcy.

I would look at ipe, tigerwood, garapa or any of the other available hardwoods before I built another deck out of composite. Composite is not maintenance free or fade resistant. Hardwoods look better and last far longer and trees are not going out of business.

Trex has their own hidden fastener clips for mounting.

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Re: What to use to install decking? new [Re: JSpill]
      #6050260 - 08/30/12 08:12 PM

I don't know about Trex or the equivalent, but for the AZEK deck we had done last year, the contractor talked me into overdriven *real* screws and Cortex plugs instead of the usual edge fasteners. AMAZING! A bag of the plugs comes with various "grain" patterns so if you are careful in selecting and orienting each one, it is virtually impossible to see where the screws are. Pretty much like installing wood plugs, actually.

Cortex also makes plugs for the Versatex PVC trim we had done recently - same invisible effect.


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Re: What to use to install decking? new [Re: JSpill]
      #6050355 - 08/30/12 09:04 PM

I was putting down cedar boards, but I don't think that matters. On the recommendation of my local lumber yard I got the Camo Marksman decking jig. I really like it. Very fast, compared to some of the other ways I was thinking of doing it. The jig sets the board spacing and positions the screws. You have to use their screws, but they're no more expensive than other coated deck screws.

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Re: What to use to install decking? new [Re: Woodenfish]
      #6050360 - 08/30/12 09:10 PM

Woodenfish said:


JSpill said:


I'm replacing an old wood deck with composite-probably Trex.



Why? All composite boards have mold and stain issues. There are good hardwoods available where the manufacturer hasn't been sued because of poor performance. Many homeowners of thee products are stuck with decks that the manufacturer warranty is useless because of bankruptcy.

I would look at ipe, tigerwood, garapa or any of the other available hardwoods before I built another deck out of composite. Composite is not maintenance free or fade resistant. Hardwoods look better and last far longer and trees are not going out of business.

Trex has their own hidden fastener clips for mounting.




+1 I urge anyone to price it out. Around here the upper end composites are more expensive than either redwood or ipe.

As to fasteners, I'm not impressed with those plastic inserts---into biscuit slots or grooves---I was more impressed with the metal clips that you put a screw threw.

Just remember that whatever screws you use (hidden or face screwed) the screws need to be stainless steel or coated to stand up to new pressure treated joists.

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ferrari
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Re: What to use to install decking? new [Re: Woodenfish]
      #6050597 - 08/31/12 07:34 AM

Woodenfish said:


JSpill said:


I'm replacing an old wood deck with composite-probably Trex.



Why? All composite boards have mold and stain issues. There are good hardwoods available where the manufacturer hasn't been sued because of poor performance. Many homeowners of thee products are stuck with decks that the manufacturer warranty is useless because of bankruptcy.

I would look at ipe, tigerwood, garapa or any of the other available hardwoods before I built another deck out of composite. Composite is not maintenance free or fade resistant. Hardwoods look better and last far longer and trees are not going out of business.

Trex has their own hidden fastener clips for mounting.




I've had composite on the current covered deck for 6 years. Never had a problem.
Hose it off a couple times a year and that's all the maintenance it needs.

I have Deckmaster on my deck, but this fairly new Camo product gets great reviews and many local guys I know use it with good results.

http://www.camofasteners.com/


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Woodenfish
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Re: What to use to install decking? new [Re: ferrari]
      #6050648 - 08/31/12 08:18 AM

Which composite board did you use?

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ferrari
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Re: What to use to install decking? new [Re: Woodenfish]
      #6050651 - 08/31/12 08:20 AM

Tamko product I believe. Evergrain I think it is. I would have to check to be sure as I was considering 3-4 at the time.

I would definately look at Ipe as well.
But I am completely happy with my composite and would definately use it again.

Edited by ferrari (08/31/12 09:10 AM)


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