berone said:

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I don't know why you're so insistent on gutters, JR. I think you can get by just fine without them. If you really want to, go ahead and put them in, but I don't think lack of gutters will result in rain in the basement. I do fear that not putting the french drain deep enough or doing something to treat that rubble foundation will. If it's only $75 for a trench, buy him two skateboards and have him dig all the way down.

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I think you mis-read JR's comments. I was the one suggesting gutters for numerous reasons, for which I think you are mistaken. Aside from the mess that no gutters leave on sidewalks, garden beds and splashing mud against the house, carrying water "away" from the foundation is the key to maintaining a dry basement.

BTW----we went out to dinner last night and drove home past our favorite Craftsman home in town. You had to look twice (due to the design/paint job) but it had gutters.

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Dave

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