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Lathe Tools or Chisels? - MarkSLSmith - 01-31-2016
I picked these up at a used tool emporium/ flea market. Not sure for what they were intended.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5-Qpf6...Bj=w781-h585-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vTU1x6...yR=w781-h585-no
If they are neither lathe tools, nor chisels, suggestions are welcome.
PS I would have posted pictures, but I just can't seem to get photobucket to work.
Thanks,
Mark
Re: Lathe Tools or Chisels? - AHill - 01-31-2016
The first looks like a skewed scraper. The second looks like a skew chisel. Both appear to be lathe tools. I've not seen a skewed scraper before. It's possible the top one never had a bevel ground on it.
Re: Lathe Tools or Chisels? - theeviltwinn - 02-01-2016
If the steel is good you could make a couple of nice scrapers out of them.
Twinn
Re: Lathe Tools or Chisels? - NCPaladin - 02-01-2016
The first may be a scraper which has been skewed but it is very skewed. Lots of folks skew the end a little but rarely over 5* for working the inside corners of boxes and the such.
The second may be a skewed scraper (different animal) for sheer cuts cleaning up the outside of a bowl. They have only one bevel as shown. They come in pairs for working from the left to R or R to left.
Like these
http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant...ools-pkrd-hdsks
Much easier to control (to me) than using a bowl gouge in a sheer scrape position.
You could grind a bevel the opposite on the flat end one and have a pair in stead of $167.
Re: Lathe Tools or Chisels? - MKepke - 02-01-2016
Can't be certain, but they look like files. The second one labelled 6" appears to have diagonal striations down its body - like what you would get if you ground the teeth off a file.
Edit to add: to clarify: meant *repurposed* files.
-Mark
Re: Lathe Tools or Chisels? - Steve K - 02-01-2016
AHill said:
The first looks like a skewed scraper. The second looks like a skew chisel. Both appear to be lathe tools. I've not seen a skewed scraper before. It's possible the top one never had a bevel ground on it.
I use a skewed scraper on the outside of bowls pretty often. There are times it will leave a much better finish than a bowl gouge. Mine is actually a piece of planer blade in a holder but it wouldn't be any different than skewing the end of a flat scraper.
shear scrapers
Re: Lathe Tools or Chisels? - MarkSLSmith - 02-01-2016
One of them never had any sort of edge put on it. Except for the angled end, it's a blank slate.
I think I'll try making one or both into skew scrapers for bowls and such. Am I correct in thinking these tools don't experience much force when used as skew scrapers? Perhaps I'll try the laminated tool handle method ably demonstrated by Robo Hippy.
Mark
Re: Lathe Tools or Chisels? - robo hippy - 02-02-2016
Well, first guess for me is skew chisels. I have seen scrapers that were sharpened to about a 45 degree bevel, but most are more blunt than that. The sandwich type of handle would be fine for them. You could even taper the handle slot as long as you keep it centered. Any idea if it is high speed steel, carbon steel, or some thing else? They don't look like any brand I have seen.
robo hippy
Re: Lathe Tools or Chisels? - NCPaladin - 02-02-2016
I was able to pick up 3 that cuts from right to left at a closeout price. May be the same as Steve K linked to since they were Crown.
In normal use they are much a one trick pony. I reground the bevel on one to cut from L to R, one became a skew chisel (Alan Lacer style), and one a radius scraper.
You do make very light cuts using for the final passes on the exterior.
Here is one offered by John Jordan which is double ended. Note the handle is only 6-8" so it is not used for anything but the finest cuts.
http://www.johnjordanwoodturning.com/John_Jordan_Woodturning/Shear_Scraper.html
Brian Havens has a different take, skewing the blade from both sides so all he has to do is flip it over to cut in the opposite direction.
He shows using it on bowl exteriors starting at about the 20 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ0utpU9Aik
Re: Lathe Tools or Chisels? - Rodneywt1180b - 02-02-2016
They look like file blanks to me.
They could be skew chisels but ones that haven't been used are longer than that generally.
I have some antique Butcher brand skews. They're longer and have a slight taper in thickness over their length. They're also polished. Your tools don't look like they were ever finished.
Grind whatever profile you want on them, either as scrapers or skew chisels. You can use the heat and shove method to fit handles on them.
Rodney