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Arm-R-Seal and low VOC Mineral Spirits - cputnam - 07-11-2020

Anyone willing to post experiences with low OVC mineral spirits. Apparently there is now a CARB compliant low voc being sold here in SoCal. Just wondering if Arm-R-Seal works well with it. If so, I'll order some.


RE: Arm-R-Seal and low VOC Mineral Spirits - jteneyck - 07-11-2020

(07-11-2020, 07:33 PM)cputnam Wrote: Anyone willing to post experiences with low OVC mineral spirits.  Apparently there is now a CARB compliant low voc being sold here in SoCal.  Just wondering if Arm-R-Seal works well with it.  If so, I'll order some.

If low VOC mineral spirits is the same whitish liquid they sell here in NY then save your money, and your Arm-R-Seal, because they are not compatible.  Whatever the white stuff is does not evaporate.  Needless to say, it's not a good look.  

John


RE: Arm-R-Seal and low VOC Mineral Spirits - cputnam - 07-12-2020

Thanks John! I would have been unhappy and rent the air with NSFW language.


RE: Arm-R-Seal and low VOC Mineral Spirits - Wildwood - 07-13-2020

VOC ratings kind of a myth if you can look at product ingredients! Especially when manufacturers have option to list or not list hazardous ingredients. Found an SDS for this product and not sure how it can be called low VOC after looking at section three! When find 50-70% acetone, 25-50% naphtha hard to see how product could be considered low voc!

https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/52/528489b5-ac91-40e0-98f9-9fa5cb01e943.pdf

Other low VOC solvent / thinner contain much of the same ingredients found one product claiming to have low VOC’s but ingredients not provided by the manufacturer!

EPA and Green community say buy low or no VOC wood finishing products! Yes section 2 or 3 on a MSDS or SDS may list hazardous ingredients. Problem is what manufacturers fail to list in their products. California has gone overboard with some of their requirements. I would look at Water Based products available spray can products. Checked out Lowes in Oceanside, but there plenty of other brands that maker water based poly or lacquer.

https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=clear+wood+finishes


RE: Arm-R-Seal and low VOC Mineral Spirits - jteneyck - 07-13-2020

(07-13-2020, 08:02 AM)Wildwood Wrote: VOC ratings kind of a myth if you can look at product ingredients!  Especially when manufacturers have option to list or not list hazardous ingredients. Found an SDS for this product and not sure how it can be called low VOC after looking at section three! When find 50-70% acetone,  25-50% naphtha hard to see how product could be considered low voc!

https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/52/528489b5-ac91-40e0-98f9-9fa5cb01e943.pdf

Other low VOC solvent / thinner contain much of the same ingredients found one product claiming to have low VOC’s but ingredients not provided by the manufacturer!  

EPA and Green community say buy low or no VOC wood finishing products!  Yes section 2 or  3 on a MSDS or SDS may list hazardous ingredients. Problem is what manufacturers fail to list in their products.  California has gone overboard with some of their requirements. I would look at Water Based products available spray can products. Checked out Lowes in Oceanside, but there plenty of other brands that maker water based poly or lacquer.  

https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=clear+wood+finishes

Acetone isn't included in the products counted towards VOC.  Go figure.  

John


RE: Arm-R-Seal and low VOC Mineral Spirits - bhh - 07-14-2020

Some information https://www.popularwoodworking.com/finishing/beware-voc-compliant-solvents/


Normally "whitish" might indicate an emulsion.  I heard at one time it was being thinned with water.  https://www.woodshopnews.com/columns-blogs/its-a-struggle-working-with-new-compliant-solvents