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[tablesawtom]

rereading Arlin's questions.

1.  How important is it to not only have a flat bottom but how about where the blade meets the plane?
2. How important is it to have the chip breaker done right instead of filing or sanding?
3. Also how important is it to actually have the blade flat?

and can you do any of these


On my planes everything you asked I have already been there and addressed it. I sand the chip breaker on a surface plate and feel it is good enough. If one sand it on a piece of plywood, go pee in the river and see how much it raised the water level. there is a law of deminshing  returns. And we are way off the topic.

Tom

[tablesawtom]

[Downwindtracker2]

"A chunk of iron is a chunk of iron" by that I mean a machine is a machine, whether it's a paper machine or a log deck, two extremes of tolerance there. They are a relationship of parts and it's the understanding of that relationship. It's also a pretty arrogant statement, too.  A plane is a machine, hand powered though.  BTW I hate welding, when I came on a job, I hid my welding helmet in skilsaw metal case. The last 25 years were spent in a wire mill.

[Arlin Eastman]

Tracker

I think when you said "A chunk of iron is a chunk of iron" is incorrect even at the lowest state in the ground which has a lot of impurities in different areas.

I did not do the same things Tom did in the military but I was a machinist with a ton of Heat treating , welder, and sheet metal troop and I had to deal with a lot more things then a normal machinist and welder does with all the different kinds of metal we dealt with.  Even factories do their forging in different ways.

So please do not be so bold in telling someone that they are "arrogant"

[Downwindtracker2]

Sorry, when I said arrogant, I was referring to myself. I guess that might be allowed. A chunk of iron is a disrespectful description of a  machine.

[tablesawtom]

I didn't take offence at what Downwindtracker2 wrote. He was talking in shop parlance about how iron workers see steel (  I beams for a lock of a better word) because I only have an idea as to what they do. I smiled to myself about welding. Welding for a long time gave me low back pain for days so I would say that I loose the puddle in my trifocals. I did choose not to respond because I felt it was off topic and I didn't want to go there.

Arlin I also shouldn't have responded to your questions because there took me off topic. I know you personally and know why you asked what you did. My world is in fits and finish and it has to be right and work.  But I shouldn't have answered because It really was off topic.

And the truth is I can be presceived, or be taken as being arrogant. The thing that I dislike the most, being a Tool And Die Maker is being called a machinest. That is like calling a heart specialist a nurse and the other is I have decided to go there.

Chis Schwarz is good at what he does and that is write. And he earned his way to be able to teach and do DVD's  and yes I was able to learn something new from him. And yes I wish I was in his position because I have so much to say about building principles and processes and ways of doing things, things that I know to be true. I am getting personal here but I am 71 and I have a burning desire to pass on what I know because when I take my last breath it all disappears.

I hung a TV in the room with a good entertaining DVD for beginners to watch hoping I might just get one person interested in woodworking. Selling a plane is a by product which helps only pave the way. I asked for information here on the form and followed the recommendations. I didn't argue about the video or try to defend a different a different one. I just took the word of some people who probably knew more than I did on what the subject I asked about  and I found out they were right and Chris's DVD was a good choice. One I would never have bought or considered otherwise.

 I have been called old fashoned, I have been told that I think I an better than the workers around me because I won't go down in the gutter with then and I guess now we can add arrogant to the list.
I didn't take offence at what Downwindtracker2 wrote, because I kind of thought he was kind of talking about himself. Yes I can seem arrogant sometimes.

Tom