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Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - Steve N - 04-22-2017
I was watching Tommy McDonald today, he and his buddy Al, were making Tommies lovely Wife a built in cabinet. Really looked handsome.
Then I saw an image of the Devil hisself, or maybe it was Scott Phillips. Tommy and Al started popping in screws with a Kreg jig, not just one or two, but a bunch of them
Now I know if Scott had done that there would be a thread, so well, I kinda felt it a public service
Some people's heads will likely explode. but folks, it all comes down to the right tool, application, or joinery for the job. I really don't say this to be a terrorist, but if our Fore Fathers had access to electricity, they would have certainly used TS, Jointer, Planers, Routers, and yes Pocket hole jigs. So traditional might just be so, because all the goodies we have available weren't around yet. Hopefully no one need to pop a Nitro
RE: Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - fredhargis - 04-22-2017
I'm not gonna bite, this is for others to jump in on.
RE: Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - clockman - 04-22-2017
pocket screws to me look horrible, although they do serve a purpose. But for his level of skill, it is a travesty.
RE: Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - Admiral - 04-22-2017
I've not seen what they were doing, but face frame construction is ok for pocket screws.
RE: Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - AgGEM - 04-22-2017
I have used them to hold down table tops. Just open the hole a bit for movement, and only just snug the screw.
No issues yet.
Ag
RE: Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - Robert Adams - 04-22-2017
Who is Tommy Mcdonald?
RE: Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - jteneyck - 04-22-2017
To me, unless you are building period perfect stuff, it's all fair game. I use traditional joinery where that makes the most structural sense. Where that's not critical, I use whatever is convenient, without shame. If you haven't guessed by now I use loose tenons for most joints, including most structural ones, but I have no aversion to using biscuits, or pocket screws, or a vacuum bag with plastic resin glue, or ....
I was just at the Stickley factory. One of the things the tour guide said several times was that the Stickleys used the latest technology available at the time to make their furniture. Same for the Shakers before them. Now folks including Stickley are using CNC machines to make parts. Makes perfect sense to me.
John
RE: Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - Steve N - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 08:57 PM)jteneyck Wrote: To me, unless you are building period perfect stuff, it's all fair game. I use traditional joinery where that makes the most structural sense. Where that's not critical, I use whatever is convenient, without shame. If you haven't guessed by now I use loose tenons for most joints, including most structural ones, but I have no aversion to using biscuits, or pocket screws, or a vacuum bag with plastic resin glue, or ....
I was just at the Stickley factory. One of the things the tour guide said several times was that the Stickleys used the latest technology available at the time to make their furniture. Same for the Shakers before them. Now folks including Stickley are using CNC machines to make parts. Makes perfect sense to me.
John
Best answer.
BTW this was the project.
![[Image: 0513-ChinaCabinet-1.jpeg]](http://tommymac.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/0513-ChinaCabinet-1.jpeg)
Cabinet for Tommy's wife to put her pretty dishes into
RE: Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - AHill - 04-22-2017
Was Kreg one of the sponsors? Then it would make sense. It hardly makes any difference now, since he announced recently he was leaving the show.
RE: Hmmmmmm T-Mac, say it's not so - TomFromStLouis - 04-23-2017
(04-22-2017, 04:21 PM)fredhargis Wrote: I'm not gonna bite, this is for others to jump in on.
OMG, I agree with Fred.
Everyone gets to pick how they make stuff and if you are production minded sometimes shortcuts happen. And we are talking about a sponsored show on TV so personal preferences might not even matter.