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Round Bottom Plane question - Blockplane - 04-26-2018
Hi everyone. I am thinking about building mahogany end tables from a locally sourced slab. I'd like to make coopered leg assemblies and need a round bottom plane to smooth the convex side of same. Question: how would one go about making such a plane with the appropriately radiused bottom? Advise on where to start? Source for iron? Hock or other?
Thanks
Bruce Pottorff
RE: Round Bottom Plane question - Bill_Houghton - 04-26-2018
You say "round bottom," and then refer to the convex parts of the legs; I'm a bit confused, but I'll assume you do mean convex rather than concave.
Why make? Why not seek out an appropriate hollow plane?
Or use the traditional method of planing ever smaller flats on the work and then using a scraper to finesse out the remaining ridges?
RE: Round Bottom Plane question - Blockplane - 04-26-2018
My bad...I meant concave. I have not had any luck finding a round bottom with the larger radius I require. Are there any current manufacturers of such planes?
RE: Round Bottom Plane question - Aram - 04-26-2018
(04-26-2018, 01:48 PM)Blockplane Wrote: My bad...I meant concave. I have not had any luck finding a round bottom with the larger radius I require. Are there any current manufacturers of such planes?
I'm about 99% sure you mean a plane that is curved front to back, not side to side. My answer holds for both, though side to side curvature is a bit more difficult:
Have you considered making one? Laminated wood planes are not terribly hard to make. They will cost you 50 bucks for a Hock iron, a few bucks for some hard, stable wood for the plane body, cross-pin, and wedge, and some time and maybe a little learning. David Finck's book is the best resource I know of to learn how.
The difference between making a flat-bottom plane and a rocker-body plane (I think that's what you want) is that near the end of the build, you cut a curve on the plane bottom, and fair it with hand planes, sanders, or whatever you like. If you don't have a bandsaw for the initial shaping, I'm sure a bow saw would work if you are adept with one. You will want to be sure that the final product has the bottom perpendicular to the sides. Again, not the hardest thing ever, but it might take some patience.
Yes, you can also buy one. One advantageof making your own is that you can define your own curvature.
Good luck! Post your solution.
RE: Round Bottom Plane question - Bill_Houghton - 04-26-2018
Ah. OK. I've got a transition plane that someone made into a round bottom plane; I presume s/he just drew the radius on each end and then planed/scraped/sanded it to shape before inserting the iron and tracing the shape.
Woodie jack and straight-sided smoothers seem to run $10-15 on eBay. Might be a starting point for a make-your-own.
RE: Round Bottom Plane question - iclark - 04-26-2018
Sounds like you might be looking for a compass plane. If so, you might get lucky posting a WTB down in SnS.
Aram's suggestion is sound, but he is also an experienced plane maker and it might be cheaper to buy a used plane than to buy the floats and other tools to ease the challenge of making a plane.
An additional option would be to do the rough shaping with a good half-round rasp and then fine tune it with a file or round-bottom spokeshave.
I look forward to seeing your progress.
RE: Round Bottom Plane question - Aram - 04-26-2018
(04-26-2018, 02:30 PM)iclark Wrote: it might be cheaper to buy a used plane than to buy the floats and other tools to ease the challenge of making a plane.
Doh! Duh. Yes.
RE: Round Bottom Plane question - TheCabinetmaker - 04-26-2018
If the radius runs toe to heel that would be called a compass plane. These are available in both metal and wooden versions.
RE: Round Bottom Plane question - theoldfart - 04-26-2018
It sounds like your looking for either a Stanley #20 or a Stanley #113. They both have an adjustable curved sole. I use the 113 and it's worked well for me.
RE: Round Bottom Plane question - Blockplane - 04-26-2018
Thanks for all the responses. I am looking to make a plane with a sole curved side to side. Hock's page I see had plans for sale for making a round bottom Krenov, and a radiused iron to match. I think I am up to the task, so I'll go that route. Worst case I figure is I have to make one, chuck it, then another. It's all good.