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balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - mound - 01-20-2020
I've got a cabinet project I'm working out details on (TV console) and was going to use BB plywood as a substrate, edge banded with solid walnut and veneered with 1/16" quarter sawn walnut.
for the opposing face (inside the box), to "maintain balance" I believe I should use 1/16" veneer as well (is that true?) but is flat-sawn suitable or do I need to stick with quarter sawn veneer?
probably overthinking...
RE: balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - fredhargis - 01-20-2020
It doesn't matter as long as the relative thicknesses are the same. At least that's been my experience, but Joe Woodworker seems to suggest you might want to consider the grain. He sells backer with different grain types.
RE: balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - mound - 01-20-2020
(01-20-2020, 11:07 AM)fredhargis Wrote: It doesn't matter as long as the relative thicknesses are the same. At least that's been my experience, but Joe Woodworker seems to suggest you might want to consider the grain. He sells backer with different grain types.
Thanks!
RE: balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - JohnnyEgo - 01-20-2020
On a semi-related note, do you plan to vacuum laminate or go with weights and clamps? Curious, because I have a project coming up that calls for lamination over ply, and I do not own a vacuum press as of yet.
RE: balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - mike4244 - 01-20-2020
(01-20-2020, 10:43 AM)mound Wrote: I've got a cabinet project I'm working out details on (TV console) and was going to use BB plywood as a substrate, edge banded with solid walnut and veneered with 1/16" quarter sawn walnut.
for the opposing face (inside the box), to "maintain balance" I believe I should use 1/16" veneer as well (is that true?) but is flat-sawn suitable or do I need to stick with quarter sawn veneer?
probably overthinking...
I would use MDF instead of plywood. If you use plywood the veneer grain direction should be perpendicular to the cabinet plywood. Veneer both sides. The veneers can be different species but try to use same thickness.
mike
RE: balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - SteveS - 01-20-2020
(01-20-2020, 03:21 PM)mike4244 Wrote: I would use MDF instead of plywood. If you use plywood the veneer grain direction should be perpendicular to the cabinet plywood. Veneer both sides. The veneers can be different species but try to use same thickness.
mike
Direction of the new veneer does not need to be different from the factory veneer.
RE: balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - Rob Young - 01-21-2020
(01-20-2020, 01:12 PM)JohnnyEgo Wrote: On a semi-related note, do you plan to vacuum laminate or go with weights and clamps? Curious, because I have a project coming up that calls for lamination over ply, and I do not own a vacuum press as of yet.
You can get one of the RoarRocket bags inexpensively. They have a larger size bag that can accommodate cabinet door size work. I don't have a vac pump, just use their gizmo. Ok for occasional work, but if you did a lot of vac veneering, get a "real" bag and pump.
RE: balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - SteveS - 01-21-2020
(01-21-2020, 08:56 AM)Rob Young Wrote: You can get one of the RoarRocket bags inexpensively. They have a larger size bag that can accommodate cabinet door size work. I don't have a vac pump, just use their gizmo. Ok for occasional work, but if you did a lot of vac veneering, get a "real" bag and pump.
I started with the RR kit before I got my vacuum pump and used it on a number of projects. It only pulls about half what a pump does but still works quite well.
RE: balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - mound - 01-21-2020
(01-20-2020, 01:12 PM)JohnnyEgo Wrote: On a semi-related note, do you plan to vacuum laminate or go with weights and clamps? Curious, because I have a project coming up that calls for lamination over ply, and I do not own a vacuum press as of yet.
I plan to vacuum bag it.. I have a large bag and one of the Joe Woodworker systems. Love it!
RE: balanced veneering of plywood, thickness and cut? - mound - 01-21-2020
(01-20-2020, 04:58 PM)SteveS Wrote: Direction of the new veneer does not need to be different from the factory veneer.
I've always wondered if this is a wives tale.