06-19-2019, 07:01 AM
I have a large shoulder plane, LN, that is never used. But my little clifton 410 is used vey often, one of my most used planes.
Opinions, Please, on Large Shoulder Plane - Vertias vs. Lie-Nielsen
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06-19-2019, 07:01 AM
I have a large shoulder plane, LN, that is never used. But my little clifton 410 is used vey often, one of my most used planes.
06-19-2019, 07:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-19-2019, 07:07 AM by Handplanesandmore.)
Not an expert in joint pain and stiffness, but we are not talking about the miniature shoulder plane vs the large shoulder plane. If I were having a pain with my hands, I would rather use a lighter tool especially for a prolonged period.
Simon
I have both. I prefer the Veritas for 2 reasons:
1. Ergonomics. For me, it just fits my hand better. I prefer to remove the pin at the rear of the handle. 2. Side iron adjustment screws. I really like this feature. I have medium and large sizes. I like the extra mass of a large shoulder plane an in some instances.
06-19-2019, 11:35 AM
I have the LN Medium and Veritas Large. I much prefer my Veritas for the ergonomics, but I agree with Derek. It hardly gets used, and I wish I had purchased the Veritas medium over the the LN. In most of the reviews I've seen of shoulder planes, the Veritas wins - primarily because of its ergonomics and the adjustment screws. This is one area where Veritas consistently beats LN, IMO.
Still Learning,
Allan Hill
06-19-2019, 02:22 PM
Afraid mine isn't made any more...
Auburn Tool Co. No. 181....1.25" wide, skewed iron,,,cost me a whopping $10 a few years ago....
Show me a picture, I'll build a project from that
06-19-2019, 07:15 PM
I have Rob's stuff. Haven't used enough to comment but I agree with the points presented above.
Just to confuse the issue, there are the HNT Gordon shoulder planes. You'd have to ask Derek about those.
Thanks, Curt
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06-21-2019, 11:01 AM
Folks, thanks for the insights!
My reasons for asking about the large shoulder plane are twofold: 1. My LV plow (with conversion kit) is fine for making small rabbets for furniture-scale stuff, but I want something to clean up after it. I have a Stanley 78, which I don't really like to use (uncomfortable, rickety fence, sloppy depth adjustment--just the usual complaints), but I keep reaching for it to clean up rabbets I've cut with my plow. I keep thinking, gee, I wish I had a good shoulder plane in this size... 2. I have been making a lot of big M&T joints. And by big I mean tenon cheeks I'm cutting with my rip saw rather than a tenon saw. (Mostly for interior doors, bed frames, and whatnot.) It would be nice, I think, to have a shoulder plane that could trim not only the shoulders but also the tenon cheeks. I know there are other ways to do that, but again, I keep reaching for my poor ol' Stanley 78 to do the job, which it's not very good at. I really like the width of the 78 for these kinds of jobs. That said, I'll definitely consider the medium LV shoulder plane, especially since this purchase will be a splurge. I don't know how many more big M&T joints I'll be making in the future.
Steve S.
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